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by LukePraisestone 1st September 2017, 09:42 AM

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Patch: 3.0.0.21729
Duration: 00:18:21
1 Sep 2017, 09:42 AM
#1
avatar of LukePraisestone

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Mother Russia seems to be 'a it broken'. Something the Balance Team could look into once the patch gets going again. The guy I'm facing is like rank 25 as soviets 1v1 which should further my point.
1 Sep 2017, 09:49 AM
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Mother Russia seems to be 'a it broken'. Something the Balance Team could look into once the patch gets going again. The guy I'm facing is like rank 25 as soviets 1v1 which should further my point.


What is your point? What is wrong with For Mother Russia? Broken aka OP or does not work?

Your opponent is top 20 and you are around top 200.

1 Sep 2017, 09:54 AM
#3
avatar of LukePraisestone

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did you even watch the replay, he's only building penal troopers and then calls in kv-1. I could execute the strategy equally as well if i had counter attack tactics
1 Sep 2017, 09:57 AM
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did you even watch the replay, he's only building penal troopers and then calls in kv-1. I could execute the strategy equally as well if i had counter attack tactics


Welcome in 1vs1 :)

Callin meta. Thats why 1vs1 is boring and the searchtime is long in 1vs1.

You see Kv1 or M4C Shermans from soviets and soviet t1 everywhere.


--> Thats why the changes in FBP but well it got canceled :(
1 Sep 2017, 10:01 AM
#5
avatar of LukePraisestone

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If you can get top 20 with just a-moving a penal blob and call-ins and zero tactics. Btw do you know why they cancelled the patch since you were involved?
1 Sep 2017, 10:10 AM
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If you can get top 20 with just a-moving a penal blob and call-ins and zero tactics. Btw do you know why they cancelled the patch since you were involved?


They are focus on other game(s) now.

But there will be 1-2 Updates this year for coh2 but "only" for maps. Have a look to the 2vs2 Mapcontest :)
1 Sep 2017, 10:18 AM
#7
avatar of LukePraisestone

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Kind of sucks, they most likely quite the balancing job all together then. I guess implement a new map takes like 5 minutes for a relic employ while adding the balance changes from the mod might take longer otherwise that makes no sense. You still have to appreciate how long they tried to balance the game tho.
1 Sep 2017, 11:44 AM
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Welcome in 1vs1 :)

Callin meta. Thats why 1vs1 is boring and the searchtime is long in 1vs1.



To be honest the entire meta in CoH2 -not only in 1v1- is boring af atm.

Volks/Pfusi spam with t1 forward retreat, mindless penal spam, brit cheese and BAR blobs with smoke nades.
And that in every single match in high rank 2v2 (and Im sure in 3v3/4v4 as well from what Ive heard) Zzzzzz

Personally the only way I can enjoy playing CoH2 atm is if I go 100% non-meta mode ;/
1 Sep 2017, 14:16 PM
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The problem with coh2 meta isn´t that it´s unbalanced or boring, it´s actually quite funny to play call-in meta when you play it for the first time.

The problem is that coh2 doesn´t have many different options to go if you still want to win. It lacks diversity in terms of viable strats and this alone will give you the feeling of boring meta. Meta isn´t boring (look at 4*t34/85 call in vs 2*tiger call in meta, that was boring). Meta is just repetive without any chance of escape from it.

All coh2 needs is a bit of diversity and viable strats so you can experiment a bit more with tools you are given. Coh2 doesn´t need to be 100% balanced, just a bit more diverse.
2 Sep 2017, 17:18 PM
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If you can get top 20 with just a-moving a penal blob and call-ins and zero tactics. Btw do you know why they cancelled the patch since you were involved?


both axis can do the same against the other allies. Soviets are the only one that can withstand the cheese with their own cheese.
3 Sep 2017, 03:54 AM
#11
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To be honest the entire meta in CoH2 -not only in 1v1- is boring af atm.

Volks/Pfusi spam with t1 forward retreat, mindless penal spam, brit cheese and BAR blobs with smoke nades.
And that in every single match in high rank 2v2 (and Im sure in 3v3/4v4 as well from what Ive heard) Zzzzzz

Personally the only way I can enjoy playing CoH2 atm is if I go 100% non-meta mode ;/

I've been using a strategy based around the commando regiment as brits, which is sorta of meta but can also be pretty cheesy sometimes. It's honestly the most fun I've had in a long time.
The problem with coh2 meta isn´t that it´s unbalanced or boring, it´s actually quite funny to play call-in meta when you play it for the first time.

The problem is that coh2 doesn´t have many different options to go if you still want to win. It lacks diversity in terms of viable strats and this alone will give you the feeling of boring meta. Meta isn´t boring (look at 4*t34/85 call in vs 2*tiger call in meta, that was boring). Meta is just repetive without any chance of escape from it.

All coh2 needs is a bit of diversity and viable strats so you can experiment a bit more with tools you are given. Coh2 doesn´t need to be 100% balanced, just a bit more diverse.

Other than the fact that it does make the game so much more fun, I think the existence of more diversity would also help balance, as you'd have more options to deal with different scenarios or maps and you wouldn't have to resort to cheese, which would probably be more easily dealt with if you had a diverse roster of units too. I think that that's definitely one thing Coh1 has over Coh2 (but it can also be cheesy and abusable as shit sometimes)


both axis can do the same against the other allies. Soviets are the only one that can withstand the cheese with their own cheese.

True true. Okw is much better at that than ost tho.

As for OP, I can agree that 'for mother russia' is pretty fkin cheesy when used with penals, if he's referring to the global ability that buffs all infantry and makes them sprint. I'm pretty sure they're a lot more resistant to suppression, and I think I've had instances where a blob of like 4+ penals just frontally wiped my mg34 while ignoring my infantry and went on to facerush my schwerer and satchel it to death. The commanders it's in are pretty rare and off-meta though.
5 Sep 2017, 04:06 AM
#12
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3 mg and complains on penal spam rly ? :) Pz4 command tank give def bonus without cooldown btw.
5 Sep 2017, 06:01 AM
#13
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What is your point? What is wrong with For Mother Russia? Broken aka OP or does not work?

Your opponent is top 20 and you are around top 200.



Mother Russia is more broken than lend lease just no one notice it yet.

I think they should nerf to"

add 0.5 armor to 0.25

no more sprint.
5 Sep 2017, 06:21 AM
#14
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It's not just that, Penal spam into call-in KV1 is broken af.

No one should be allowed to call-in units without tech.

Guys like this a-move / kv have no place in any community, hope he takes part in a future tournament and gets banned.
5 Sep 2017, 07:29 AM
#15
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Permanently Banned


They are focus on other game(s) now.

But there will be 1-2 Updates this year for coh2 but "only" for maps. Have a look to the 2vs2 Mapcontest :)


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :megusta:
5 Sep 2017, 17:13 PM
#16
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Mother Russia is more broken than lend lease just no one notice it yet.

I think they should nerf to"

add 0.5 armor to 0.25

no more sprint.


Have a look to the revamp mod:

Mother Russia

In comparison to other abilities, Mother Russia provided far too many bonuses despite the duration of the ability. This ability has now been moved in-line with other abilities such as Valiant Assault and British Assault.

-Armour bonus removed.
-Duration from 60 seconds to 30.
-Recharge from 120 to 60.
5 Sep 2017, 17:22 PM
#17
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soviets op hihi
:thumbsup::foreveralone::megusta::guyokay::bananadance:
5 Sep 2017, 17:35 PM
#18
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If only the nerf were to come through FeelsBadMan
6 Sep 2017, 13:14 PM
#19
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I tested this penal spam + KV1 strat; well, you won't be top 20 just with that (you need skill).
This man is high in rank with many factions...
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