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Jump back to quoted post5 Jun 2017, 20:44 PMaerafield

Chat is empty, so where is the mentioned saltiness?

Btw we all or most of us know that the double OKW cancer works pretty well atm in 2s, no need to upload that 17 min game pridepost

Jump back to quoted post5 Jun 2017, 20:55 PMBulgakov

Must pridepost...


dbl OKW works well but that's cost OH is weaksauce.


And c'mon, it's not like allies don't have a ton of destructive BS they are playing with. I'd say it's pretty balanced.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jun 2017, 21:01 PMaerafield

Hmm not really.. a lot has changed since the last 2 patches. OKW can pull off its cancer much easier now. Maximal abuse of UKF and USF is almost equal I agree, but 1.) unlike OKW you need doctrines for that and 2.) the abuse of allies usually hits in mid-late game. Thats where OKW already has hardcounters for that abuse (KT, JT, LeFh etc.)

And dont forget this Forward Retreat Point nonsense. UKF and USF have it too, but their's are much more fragile and/or hit the field later.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jun 2017, 21:01 PMaerafield

Hmm not really.. a lot has changed since the last 2 patches. OKW can pull off its cancer much easier now. Maximal abuse of UKF and USF is almost equal I agree, but 1.) unlike OKW you need doctrines for that and 2.) the abuse of allies usually hits in mid-late game. Thats where OKW already has hardcounters for that abuse (KT, JT, LeFh etc.)

And dont forget this Forward Retreat Point nonsense. UKF and USF have it too, but their's are much more fragile and/or hit the field later.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jun 2017, 23:56 PMBulgakov

What OKW cancer exactly? They have nothing comparable to allies in recent patches.

USF has the best retreat point 'cos it's free and you can move it. OKW's will get katy'd and artied mid game and die.


And UKF artillery.. What do OKW have, Volks, lol?

Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2017, 06:15 AMPanzer Poacher

Hmmmmm. I agree that 2x OKW is pretty strong atmm though as you just said yourself. The 'OP' OKW things except early retreat point come late game (kt, jt, lefh). OKW isnt OP yet at all afther !7 mins of the game if i coppy your words.
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Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2017, 08:40 AMaerafield

Talking about the ISG spam and stuka rush (<-- usually with cmd panther and recon flares) cancer to get rid of support guns. Additional problem with ISG spam: Even if you micro like a god, these things will constantly snipe models from you nevertheless. And that's BS.

Yes you can counter ISG spam with rocket artillery, but at this point, at least 1 OKW player alrdy has panther or something like that on the field usually, and now allies usually lack hard to counter this since they were forced to focus on the indirect fire cancer from OKW

Allies rely on combined arms to win the inf battle, you can't just "counter spam" or "counter blob" with your own inf to get rid of vetted volks and 8 minute obersoldaten (Yes this is possible). You need smart support gun usage, but ISG spam and stuka with recon flares will just show u the middle finger in that point

Btw why is USF retreat better?? 1 stuka barrage and at least major + ambulance get rekt.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2017, 08:40 AMaerafield

Talking about the ISG spam and stuka rush (<-- usually with cmd panther and recon flares) cancer to get rid of support guns. Additional problem with ISG spam: Even if you micro like a god, these things will constantly snipe models from you nevertheless. And that's BS.

Yes you can counter ISG spam with rocket artillery, but at this point, at least 1 OKW player alrdy has panther or something like that on the field usually, and now allies usually lack hard to counter this since they were forced to focus on the indirect fire cancer from OKW

Allies rely on combined arms to win the inf battle, you can't just "counter spam" or "counter blob" with your own inf to get rid of vetted volks and 8 minute obersoldaten (Yes this is possible). You need smart support gun usage, but ISG spam and stuka with recon flares will just show u the middle finger in that point

Btw why is USF retreat better?? 1 stuka barrage and at least major + ambulance get rekt.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2017, 08:58 AMPanzer Poacher

Ya, but when you hear stuka you can move your retreat point/mass retreat, when ur OKW health truck gets focused by multiple rocket launchers or howies you can't do shit.

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Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2017, 19:07 PMDonnieChan

2nd game on rails and metal:

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Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2017, 08:40 AMaerafield

Talking about the ISG spam and stuka rush (<-- usually with cmd panther and recon flares) cancer to get rid of support guns. Additional problem with ISG spam: Even if you micro like a god, these things will constantly snipe models from you nevertheless. And that's BS.

Yes you can counter ISG spam with rocket artillery, but at this point, at least 1 OKW player alrdy has panther or something like that on the field usually, and now allies usually lack hard to counter this since they were forced to focus on the indirect fire cancer from OKW

Allies rely on combined arms to win the inf battle, you can't just "counter spam" or "counter blob" with your own inf to get rid of vetted volks and 8 minute obersoldaten (Yes this is possible). You need smart support gun usage, but ISG spam and stuka with recon flares will just show u the middle finger in that point

Btw why is USF retreat better?? 1 stuka barrage and at least major + ambulance get rekt.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2017, 17:51 PMBulgakov

If ISGs are overperforming, I can sympathise. I remember when both ISG and USF pack gun were wrecking everything. Is there are balance thread about ISG, are other people complaining?


I disagree on allies using combined arms. Penal blobs, IS blobs and rifle blobs happen every game. With weapon upgrades they beat the Volks, even vetted ones.

8 min Obers? That can't happen very often though, right?

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2017, 19:02 PMArnoLaz

Its 320 mp unit, and if u compare to other indirect fire mortar things, it kills units slower, (try in cheat mode if u dont believe me, what it has, is longer range, and thats it, no utiliy what so ever, no smoke, no fckin white phosphor. Thus, there is double or nothing, and cmon, its 640 mp, more than Lehf.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2017, 08:23 AMLuciano

Axis fanboys vs Allied fanboys, place your bets now