[WBP] hector vs findeed emplacements
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21st January 2017, 22:39 PM
- [00:00:00] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:00:07] RtN.Hector:
- [00:08:45] RtN.Hector:
- [00:08:45] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:08:46] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:08:49] RtN.Hector:
- [00:08:54] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:09:02] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:09:05] RtN.Hector:
- [00:09:06] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:09:13] RtN.Hector:
- [00:09:15] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:09:18] RtN.Hector:
- [00:21:27] RtN.Hector:
- [00:21:28] RtN.Hector:
- [00:27:20] RtN.Hector:
- [00:29:31] RtN.Hector:
- [00:29:39] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:31:02] RtN.Hector:
- [00:31:09] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:32:47] RtN.Hector:
- [00:33:07] RtN.Hector:
- [00:38:35] RtN.Hector:
- [00:41:18] wmm//Finndeed:
- [00:41:20] RtN.Hector:
- [00:41:22] RtN.Hector:
21 Jan 2017, 22:39 PM
#1
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This game clearly shows that ostheer have no chance against competent player that play with emplacements except if he went doctrine with mortar halftrack
21 Jan 2017, 22:40 PM
#2
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1 replay = 100% proof that OST cannot handle emplacements
LOGIC
LOGIC
21 Jan 2017, 22:47 PM
#3
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1 replay = 100% proof that OST cannot handle emplacements
LOGIC
Then tell me how can ostheer counter emplacements ?
21 Jan 2017, 23:05 PM
#4
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PAKs, mortar, schrek squads, mortar HT, aggressive play (to prevent emplacements from being build), tanks, panzerwerfer, on map artillery, etc etc etc
Emplacements already feel useless enough, you can't say they're imba when you lose 1 game. You have to sit back and think how to improve yourself before you can blame the game outright.
Emplacements already feel useless enough, you can't say they're imba when you lose 1 game. You have to sit back and think how to improve yourself before you can blame the game outright.
21 Jan 2017, 23:08 PM
#5
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PAKs, mortar, schrek squads, mortar HT, aggressive play (to prevent emplacements from being build), tanks, panzerwerfer, on map artillery, etc etc etc
Emplacements already feel useless enough, you can't say they're imba when you lose 1 game. You have to sit back and think how to improve yourself before you can blame the game outright.
How you want to use paks when mortar pit is behind house ? WIll you use it on braced bofors while you are shelled by 2 mortars and possibly also vickers ?
Mortar get hardcountered by both counterbattery ability and mortar pit
how you want to preven them for being build when UKF player starts the building after he gets his ground secured ? You cannot completely zone out UKF player when he have 3 IS 2 vickers and AT gun
Tanks get hardcountered by 2x AT gun and firefly rockets if they extend so much
Panzerwerfer does nothing because of brace.
So to sum it up only leiht and mortar halftrack can counter them
22 Jan 2017, 00:45 AM
#6
Posts: 515
I still think emplacements in their current state aren't difficult to deal with. If you can't deal with them I think it's a L2P issue. But they are by no means frequently used in high level games (even so there are a few players who insist on using only them in top50, but they are trash players)
22 Jan 2017, 09:05 AM
#7
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I still think emplacements in their current state aren't difficult to deal with. If you can't deal with them I think it's a L2P issue. But they are by no means frequently used in high level games (even so there are a few players who insist on using only them in top50, but they are trash players)
Findeed is really good player and he had no chance to counter my emplacements because he chose bad doctrine. I have to say findeed is better player than you. If you don´t believe me how hard time emplacements gave him look at the replay
22 Jan 2017, 11:29 AM
#8
Posts: 132
Nice. It is so difficult to play as Ostheer vs simcity. Ostheer player must have sick APM plus good plan and Brit player just builds emplacements and can eat lunch while playing.
22 Jan 2017, 17:09 PM
#9
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Well I've played Findeed once and beat him so guess you're wrong again
22 Jan 2017, 17:16 PM
#10
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Well I've played Findeed once and beat him so guess you're wrong again
What was your faction and what was his
22 Jan 2017, 18:13 PM
#11
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In another life, Nosliw was a top COH1 player, despite the fact he always sees things back-to-front.
22 Jan 2017, 18:15 PM
#12
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Have you built many emplacements in your last 5 games as Brits?
"Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca
22 Jan 2017, 18:29 PM
#13
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Have you built many emplacements in your last 5 games as Brits?
No I haven´t, I don´t like them. But still his poor doctrinal choice gave him hard time dealing with them
22 Jan 2017, 20:53 PM
#15
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Troll post invised. Please keep it clean, or you get wiped yourself.
Back to topic.
Back to topic.
22 Jan 2017, 23:03 PM
#16
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I was OST versus his Soviet on Caen. Hector you seem to be making a habit of making unjustified claims...
Also, what do you mean I see things back to front?
Also, what do you mean I see things back to front?
22 Jan 2017, 23:08 PM
#17
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...
Also, what do you mean I see things back to front?
I guess.. Traf?
23 Jan 2017, 20:54 PM
#18
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Alright, I think we should close our argument before it turns into something bigger. I will not change your mind, Nosliw about how emplacements aren´t OP because you are right up to a point that if you chose a good doctrtine and build order, you will counter emplacements.
But you won´t also change my mind that if ostheer player went for example mech assault and assgrens, then he will have really hard time countering them
But you won´t also change my mind that if ostheer player went for example mech assault and assgrens, then he will have really hard time countering them
23 Jan 2017, 21:23 PM
#19
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Well I've played Findeed once and beat him so guess you're wrong again
That's the prove that Finndeed is bad player or sim city is easy to deal as Ostheers? Seems legit
23 Jan 2017, 23:43 PM
#20
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That's the prove that Finndeed is bad player or sim city is easy to deal as Ostheers? Seems legit
? Why are you getting involved? If you read properly you may have seen that Hector said this game shows that emplacements are broken, even so they are non-existent in high level matches, and then he said I am worse than Findeed as a player, and if the only game him and I have ever played against one another I won, how could that be true either? Saying that Hector is wrong and has no proof or logic to back up his claims doesn't mean I'm saying Findeed is bad or Sim City is "easy" to deal with. I'm just saying that it's impossible to say he's better than me without any proof, and that Sim City is beatable, and that this replay can't prove it's broken.
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