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by Howie 13th October 2016, 12:25 PM
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13 Oct 2016, 12:25 PM
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嘛 ‧‧‧ 最近回歸蘇聯以後,隨著等級提升,總覺得越來越常遇到 Top 100 Players。雖然明顯變得難打,但是打完後才不會有浪費時間的感覺,畢竟打新手能學習到的新技術 & 觀念有限 ~

這次的 2 家東德都在 Lv. 16 以上,甚至其中一個荷蘭玩家,5 個陣營都在 Lv.16 - 17 之間,實力非常不錯,是我的長期目標。

初期我方資源陷入絕對劣勢,MG 42 在房子裡根本是超犯規的存在,要用步兵包抄清除的難度相當高,短時間難以收復關鍵資源點。而且果然不出所料,東德速輕甲打了一波快攻,殺的我方措手不及,就算有 AT Gun,因為地型的關係還是容易遭到包抄而團滅,無法發揮射程優勢。

因為判斷對方有油料優勢,會以坦克戰為主,此我果斷選擇了 近衛機動合作戰術 | Guard Motor Coordination Tactics

也還好之後隊友選了個還可以的指揮官 (前線突擊戰術 | Shock Rifle Frontline Tactics),利用 IS-2 來扛住戰線當肉盾。


近衛步槍兵進房子可以有效勸退德軍輕甲,暫時緩和德軍的強烈攻勢,然後最根本的治本之道還是速出 SU-76 來做遠程反裝甲火力支援。120 mm 迫擊砲擁有不錯的射程和 AOE,生存能力也較 82mm 迫擊砲來的優秀,能提供即時的遠程砲火支援,相當適合一本開局的我。載具成員自我維修可以讓在前線的車輛快速回復戰鬥力,畢竟沒有 Vet 2 的工兵維修速度實在是感人。而 T34-85 & 標記載具,可以有效支援 IS-2 ,並防止 SU-85 被包抄,並且能對德軍重裝甲造成一定程度的威脅,畢竟 IS-2 & SU-85 並不具備追擊能力,難以有效擊殺操作良好的德軍重型坦克,最後會越積越多,造成難以挽回的災難。

讓我覺得訝異的是竟然沒有一個東德玩家蓋 3本,如果東德速出 IV 號坦克 or Stug III or 東風,在遊戲中期時他們應該可以製造關鍵的大局,一口氣打垮缺乏反坦武器的我們。兩家東德的選擇都是速 4本,出重裝甲,然而沒有投注必要的人力在步兵上,我覺得這是勝負的關鍵。左邊玩家首發灰熊突擊炮是合理的,但是出了 2 台就實在太多了 ~ 沒有步坦協同以及支援武器,很難打出有效攻勢,而且因為沒有 Vet 2 工兵,維修效率極差,只靠裝甲是打不了持久戰的。至於豹式雖然可攻可守,但是 5 秒 1炮的 DPM 實在不敢恭維,在 Close Battle 不如 Stug III 來的優秀。無論是步兵、坦克、支援武器都應該要有遠近搭配來使用,透過不同的組合才能互補並把優勢發揮到最大。

最後對手都是以 虎式+豹式+灰熊的組合來應戰,就連步兵幾乎都沒有了,而視野極佳的工兵也因為忙著維修而無法到前線替坦克提供視野,這樣一來也就只能被動地挨打了。雖然虎式 + 豹式 配合煙霧撤退可以有效消耗我的 SU-85 數量,但是因為我撿了 Pak 40 這個好物,所以其實我沒有擔心太多,只要守住關鍵路口,就能有效封鎖德軍重裝甲。可惜忘了撿 MG 42 來用用,隊友也應該用動員兵而不是工兵來撿火箭筒,這樣才具備斷腿以及追殺坦克的能力,尤其是 Vet 3 之後。

坦克固然玩起來爽快,進出戰場就像在家一樣,但是光靠坦克是沒辦法打贏勝仗的,這不是坦克世界或 War Thunder 。唯有步坦協同以及支援武器相輔相成,才能互補形成堅固防線 (好比說我用近衛隊的外星槍來保護脆弱的 SU-85),而一旦防線逐步推進,這時缺乏步兵和曲射火力的德軍就只能坐以待斃,等著被包圍殲滅了。

至於對手抱怨不應該出 Tiger Ace,我的看法是可以出,但是應該先補齊步兵戰力,畢竟 SU-85 不具備反步兵能力,雙火箭筒的 PG、暴風突擊隊可以有效輔助豹式進攻和防守。
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01 Apr 2025, 02:53 AM
Lady Xenarra: Does anyone else think that USF needs buffs? It feels like they’re on life support sometimes
01 Apr 2025, 02:36 AM
Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy :clap:
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ?
25 Mar 2025, 18:27 PM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. :snfQuinn:.
24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Willy Pete: @Nickbn you didn't ask a question, and this is a chat box...
20 Mar 2025, 13:11 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: #RelicModdedEchoChamber
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Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
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aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day?
14 Mar 2025, 19:26 PM
Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community.
14 Mar 2025, 12:07 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: Just making mistake after mistake after mistake.
13 Mar 2025, 19:57 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: For a thing they could fix in minutes. Literally minutes.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
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Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
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12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
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theekvn: + 33% dmg rear hit was best deal ever.
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theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
theekvn: you rather go 76 to unity Whizbang 2.0 or go home.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: also US tier 4 is 145f and Sherman pen 140 nerf is too much.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: Whizbang lock behind CP, meanwhile stuka is techtree progress
12 Mar 2025, 03:51 AM
KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
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OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
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aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
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