Tige ace doing the job for da rich kids!

Just look at it and it will all be clear, i mean im winnig trough the whole geme, the guy calls tiger ace enters my base and destroys evrything, and on top of all the resource penalty is lowered to 10 minutes. WTF are u doing?

Just look at it and it will all be clear, i mean im winnig trough the whole geme, the guy calls tiger ace enters my base and destroys evrything, and on top of all the resource penalty is lowered to 10 minutes. WTF are u doing?

I just posted one last night the same thing. There are three schools of thoughts here. The pro or competitive gamers think it has no place in the game.

Soviet Fanbois (like me) think it have no place in the game.

German Fanbois think its fine.

Ok just watched your replay. You outplayed him in every way. Watch it with the FOW on and through the eyes of the Tiger Ass. Youll see that the Tiger Ass has such vision range that you need focus sites with your SU85s to damage it. It sees like a scout car or like it has permanent spotting scopes.

You earned your Vet and preserved your units

He bought his vet and just pushed against you with no preservations.

He suicided a vet 3 P4 against you because it didnt matter as long as he did damage becuase:

He got a Free super tank!

I call this a win for you. Total bullshit that your only real chance is to Ram this thing and have a lot of luck AND be better than the other player.

GG man

Just look at it and it will all be clear, i mean im winnig trough the whole geme, the guy calls tiger ace enters my base and destroys evrything, and on top of all the resource penalty is lowered to 10 minutes. WTF are u doing?

What you whining? You think that one su85 is enought against tanks, yes? You had chance to destroy him, but for you was better produce Katiusa

What you whining? You think that one su85 is enought against tanks, yes? You had chance to destroy him, but for you was better produce Katiusa

Bias much? Yes he made the mistake of not building his entire army and strat to beat A SINGLE UNIT THATS FREE. The only way i can think to take it out is with a RAM and 0 mistakes. So its counter is becoming a top 100 player (and have luck because even they can struggle with it from time to time)

Bias much? Yes he made the mistake of not building his entire army and strat to beat A SINGLE UNIT THATS FREE. The only way i can think to take it out is with a RAM and 0 mistakes. So its counter is becoming a top 100 player (and have luck because even they can struggle with it from time to time)

He conntrol almost the entire map, he knew that his oponnent is already weak, he knew that his opponent will go ace Tiger...what do want more?
But what he doing? Nothing......

He conntrol almost the entire map, he knew that his oponnent is already weak, he knew that his opponent will go ace Tiger...what do want more?
But what he doing? Nothing......

I had a lot of problems with his vet inf squads, he only had infantry he had 2 tnaks and i destroyed them. Maybe i mada a mistake but FREE SUPE Tank in a close match is bullshit, adn it cost zero, i controled evrything so the resource penalty wont effect him, he has nothing to lose. I lost my tnaks stupidly, but i had 2 su 85-s, and i lost one coz i didnt saw that tiger ace coz of the fog of war, and the OTHER one got main gun destroyed in one hit, i mean that is bullshit, and i kept a distance. He had nothing 2 lose,it is just free rich kids toy, and this commander is sick, im using artilery barage on lvl 3 mg, and it survives mulitple hits(5-6) like 3 or 4 times. That is just bullshit

Dont take it Personally Jesper. These guys arent watching it with the FOW on from your Point of View. They are watching it trying to show that the unit is justified so evidence isnt gathered and a public outcry to Nerf the PIMPMYACE Gold Plated edtion. I am sure they want more units that dont require Micro or Macro skill to give them Wins.

In the future you need T34s. Because its too hard to deal with it with SU85s. Since he has such a stupid amount of Site Range.

My current strat is just to ask the Ost player if he wants a Win. Because if he uses Elite I just quit. I dont care I have already fallin from 1000-4000 or so on the ladder due to this patch. My stats are beyond saving at this point and its not fun to face elite I just end up getting pissed off. Maybe if enough people adopt that then Relic will do something about it (after everyone buys the Ace for Christmas of Course)

Dont take it Personally Jesper. These guys arent watching it with the FOW on from your Point of View. They are watching it trying to show that the unit is justified so evidence isnt gathered and a public outcry to Nerf the PIMPMYACE Gold Plated edtion. I am sure they want more units that dont require Micro or Macro skill to give them Wins.

In the future you need T34s. Because its too hard to deal with it with SU85s. Since he has such a stupid amount of Site Range.

My current strat is just to ask the Ost player if he wants a Win. Because if he uses Elite I just quit. I dont care I have already fallin from 1000-4000 or so on the ladder due to this patch. My stats are beyond saving at this point and its not fun to face elite I just end up getting pissed off. Maybe if enough people adopt that then Relic will do something about it (after everyone buys the Ace for Christmas of Course)

Gentleman, I must say I highly disagree with your drastic views regarding the Yolo Tiger. If you have Yolo beasting your base, it is highly likely that you didn't lose the game because of the "OP Elite Doctorine" but much before Yolo call in because you didn't prepare for it. The damn thing is so slow and it can be flanked from any angle you want; exploit this heavily to try to get an engine crit with at nade (it will take a few tries). As people are suggesting, T34 is a must vs Yolo. A well placed ram (from behind) will do wonders if you have proper Zis and infantry support. If for some reason you opt for a variation of a T4 build vs Elite, then heavy minefields around a wider perimeter of your base will surely get you engine crit. In most situations, combination of mines and T34s will easily knock out Yolo Tiger.

Gentleman, I must say I highly disagree with your drastic views regarding the Yolo Tiger. If you have Yolo beasting your base, it is highly likely that you didn't lose the game because of the "OP Elite Doctorine" but much before Yolo call in because you didn't prepare for it. The damn thing is so slow and it can be flanked from any angle you want; exploit this heavily to try to get an engine crit with at nade (it will take a few tries). As people are suggesting, T34 is a must vs Yolo. A well placed ram (from behind) will do wonders if you have proper Zis and infantry support. If for some reason you opt for a variation of a T4 build vs Elite, then heavy minefields around a wider perimeter of your base will surely get you engine crit. In most situations, combination of mines and T34s will easily knock out Yolo Tiger.

Go watch my replay on the same topic. I did everything you suggested. I had him Base Pinned before PIMPMYTIGER Gold Plated Call Of Duty Edtion was called. My tanks were damaged and died to fast for my non Korean level Micro to handle. I was not losing. I would not have lost. Even then I hit it with a Mine, Multiple AT nades, Had multiple Zis up its ass and managed to get a Good Ram that I then repaired and got it to 10% health. One Recrewed Pak put an end to that and from there on out it was GG as I tried in vain to push push push to kill the Ace.

It is OP. Period. No Tank should be able to Solo that much AT and Macro Supremacy. It is too good to get on Loan. Plain and Simple. If you buy it thats one thing. If your a top 100 player AWESOME you are better then us plain rank and file players. To us this thing is way too fucking much.

Go watch my replay on the same topic. I did everything you suggested. I had him Base Pinned before PIMPMYTIGER Gold Plated Call Of Duty Edtion was called. My tanks were damaged and died to fast for my non Korean level Micro to handle. I was not losing. I would not have lost. Even then I hit it with a Mine, Multiple AT nades, Had multiple Zis up its ass and managed to get a Good Ram that I then repaired and got it to 10% health. One Recrewed Pak put an end to that and from there on out it was GG as I tried in vain to push push push to kill the Ace.

It is OP. Period. No Tank should be able to Solo that much AT and Macro Supremacy. It is too good to get on Loan. Plain and Simple. If you buy it thats one thing. If your a top 100 player AWESOME you are better then us plain rank and file players. To us this thing is way too fucking much.

I will take a look at the game a bit later, and I will give you my two cents in this particular situation.

Gentleman, I must say I highly disagree with your drastic views regarding the Yolo Tiger. If you have Yolo beasting your base, it is highly likely that you didn't lose the game because of the "OP Elite Doctorine" but much before Yolo call in because you didn't prepare for it. The damn thing is so slow and it can be flanked from any angle you want; exploit this heavily to try to get an engine crit with at nade (it will take a few tries). As people are suggesting, T34 is a must vs Yolo. A well placed ram (from behind) will do wonders if you have proper Zis and infantry support. If for some reason you opt for a variation of a T4 build vs Elite, then heavy minefields around a wider perimeter of your base will surely get you engine crit. In most situations, combination of mines and T34s will easily knock out Yolo Tiger.

Are u serious? It was a preety even game against higher lvl opponent, i had 2 su-85s, adn they got destroyed, i men ok t 34 is must have, but hov the fck am i going to face him in a higly even match like this, i had a lot of losses coz of his elites! I admi i amde some mistakes, BUT IM NOT PROOOOOOOO! Is tihis game designed so only the pro players can beat no skilled kids with TIger Ace, i do not know can u see it but actuallye he sent me a message in the chat im coming for u, and it was clear he also realises thet im better and he is just using this OP SUPERTANK FOR FREEEEEEEEE! He admitet it was bitchy, but nwm fand a way to ear nore moneeeeeeeeeeey, destroy the fckn game completley!

P.S. Ur actually accusing me for being bad? Im better then this guy, i im not top skilled player but im better then this guy! Ur blaming me for not having skill, that is ok, but he DOES NOT NEED SKILL TO BEAT ME! Can u not understand, it is not FAIR!

Are u serious? It was a preety even game against higher lvl opponent, i had 2 su-85s, adn they got destroyed, i men ok t 34 is must have, but hov the fck am i going to face him in a higly even match like this, i had a lot of losses coz of his elites! I admi i amde some mistakes, BUT IM NOT PROOOOOOOO! Is tihis game designed so only the pro players can beat no skilled kids with TIger Ace, i do not know can u see it but actuallye he sent me a message in the chat im coming for u, and it was clear he also realises thet im better and he is just using this OP SUPERTANK FOR FREEEEEEEEE! He admitet it was bitchy, but nwm fand a way to ear nore moneeeeeeeeeeey, destroy the fckn game completley!

P.S. Ur actually accusing me for being bad? Im better then this guy, i im not top skilled player but im better then this guy! Ur blaming me for not having skill, that is ok, but he DOES NOT NEED SKILL TO BEAT ME! Can u not understand, it is not FAIR!

Please calm down. Under no circumstances was I condescending. It is not my intent to say anything malicious against anybody. As I said, I will look over the game and give you my two cents on where I think you went wrong.

Are u serious? It was a preety even game against higher lvl opponent, i had 2 su-85s, adn they got destroyed, i men ok t 34 is must have, but hov the fck am i going to face him in a higly even match like this, i had a lot of losses coz of his elites! I admi i amde some mistakes, BUT IM NOT PROOOOOOOO! Is tihis game designed so only the pro players can beat no skilled kids with TIger Ace, i do not know can u see it but actuallye he sent me a message in the chat im coming for u, and it was clear he also realises thet im better and he is just using this OP SUPERTANK FOR FREEEEEEEEE! He admitet it was bitchy, but nwm fand a way to ear nore moneeeeeeeeeeey, destroy the fckn game completley!

I have just watched the game and I absolutely stand behind what I initially said.

I do agree that you were better in this game and I especially liked the fuel harassment. However, you need to keep in mind that Germans do not need as much territory as Russians do to roll out medium armor. You also had a good idea about his MG positioning, but I cant help to wonder why you weren't more aggressive during flanking. Had you been so, you could have probably taken out his mg earlier. The ZIS barrage usage was also solid.

Now let me tell you why I think you lost this game:
You had tons of fuel due to really good flank harassment and pure territory control but I feel that you made a mistake by going T4. As I mentioned earlier, T34s are crucial against Elite Doctrine. At the first site of a vet 3 MG42 you should have made the decision to go T3. You had 3 or 4 SU-85s totaling 1280 MP and 460 fuel (each SU is 320 MP and 115 fuel). For that amount of resource you could have gotten (almost) 5 T34s. Even with RNG gods not on your side, with 5 (reasonable) ram attempts you would have had plenty of opportunity to knock the Yolo out with a heavy crit.

As far as your SU-85 usage is concerned, that is something you need to practice a bit. SU 85 should be treated as a anti tank support unit, which means that under no circumstances should it be on the front lines fighting infantry. SU 85 should not rush to defend flanks against infantry either or chase vehicles. In this particular case your first SU got a heavy crit from a force that was on the retreat and it was easily picked off by an advancing pak. Your second SU-85 died from friendly fire. You spent 200 munis on a bomb strike to knock out already low health vet 2 P4. You had that P4 beat. Waste of bombing run, waste of SU85. Third and fourth SU85s were picked off by the yolo.

Probably the biggest reason why you lost this game is the fact that you didn't lay a single mine. At the peek of your game (right before you knocked out your own SU85) you had 300 munis. Throughout the game you had 100 munis on average banked at all times. You were in a good position to mine all of the approaches to your base as well as few sectors around his base. Taking out a Tiger with a heavy mine crit is trivial with SU85's forward focus ability (not to mention it becomes a sitting duck for a nice T34 ram).

Please don't take this analysis the wrong way. It is not my intention to be condescending but to give a fair assessment of the situation. This post is also not about me nor am I trying to be a smart ass. I am just an average player who enjoys the game. I hope you find the analysis beneficial.

My question is what if the german player did not use the vet abilities, then the tiger ace could come out of nowhere.. Good luck dealing with that!

I dont think that a single unit should nullify a whole Soviet Tier or rely on RNG or a lucky mine to take down. Period. You might as well add Mecha Stalin that farts Tsar Bombas. I think whether or not he did everything perfect the German player desrved a loss. In fact i think if the tiger ace was even as CHEAP as a Regular Tiger the German player could not have won this match.

Also SturmTiger I too have a replay that you can find that I DID follow all the rules yet good OLE RNG made sure that last critical hit bounced. And it was the same Scenerio and even the same map. I used micro to kick ass with Merging Penals which for us mere mortals is quite a feat.

My reward? Instant TA Call in while i was base raping. Mine? YEP HIT ONE....RAM? YEP Took one. Zis guns? Yep x2 kickin its head in. Still it made it away and then it was all down hill as I kept sending armor to their death in a desperate attempt to finish off the Ace.

The fact is...its the single most powerful unit in the game....by a HUGE MARGIN. And its on loan with no interest! All you gotta do is survive long enough to hit the Magic button and summon it from the bowels of COH Hell.

Thats what it should be. The Nazi Zombie Tiger Ace! Straight from COD!

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Just to illustrate what I am talking about take a look at this replay. I played this guy earlier today and this is an example of how to deal with elite doctrine.

I made al those mistakes, i admit it. I didnt used my su's preety good, this wasnt my best game, i admit that. I use mines, but god knows why i didnt used them in this one, ummm, i lost my first su to my own bombardment, it was stupid, but i tought he would use my su as a cover from my zis, and finish it of, but the guy was a bad player so he decicded to retreat against su, and that is suicicde. Ur right i shoulda go for t 34, but that is not my point my point is that unit alone is OP, and is FREE, and it is not fair. JHeartless did evrything right, but he lost anyways...

Thx u for ur guides, u were right i should play like that against elites, and i will try to do so in the upcoming matches. Greetings

Plenty of ways to deal with Tiger Ace. Learn to adapt, anticipate it. Its one unit, can't be everywhere at once. And it shuts down all production for >10 minutes< so yeah its powerful, its a huge gamble because if it gets taken out by a couple of coordinated rams then the player is crippled. Its a high risk, high reward unit.