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SNF S04E09 Aimstrong vs. DevM Jan. 13th

12 Jan 2013, 06:57 AM
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Too bad I won't be able to see this show live :( This should be one heck of an epsiode. Guderian guest casting, a relic dev for interview and 2 of the best players in the game battling it out in a BO5. How much better can it get? :wub:
12 Jan 2013, 07:55 AM
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Here's hoping for a good one (ie 5 games, 5 hours, Wehr Officer & Mr. Plow in at least one game)!
12 Jan 2013, 12:34 PM
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Freakin pumped for this SNF, really great job in making it so good for the community!
12 Jan 2013, 13:15 PM
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Here comes probably the best episode of the season!
12 Jan 2013, 13:22 PM
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Should be a nice set of games. Best of luck guys, really got no idea who will take it :)
12 Jan 2013, 15:06 PM
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Good luck to both :)
12 Jan 2013, 15:59 PM
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13 Jan 2013, 15:48 PM
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13 Jan 2013, 17:12 PM
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Can't wait to see this match woooot!
13 Jan 2013, 17:18 PM
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Games 1 and 2: Bois du Chatelet
Games 3 and 4: Semois
Game 5 (if necessary): Langres
* maps selected by contenders in veto process 1 week prior to fight


I'm intrigued by the map line-up tonight. My general philosophy about the vanilla COH metagame is that it takes Wehr a long time to figure out how to win a map. At the beginning of each patch, we see Americans dominating, simply because they are the most versatile. With doctrines and tech choices, they can adapt quicker to a particular game/map. Wehr, on the other hand, must have a strategy in mind, and must execute it properly, to win. It takes massive games played on certain maps for the community in general to slice up the map by trying various approaches, constantly testing which is best. Over many months, the metagame evolves and Wehr learns how to win maps, even dominate them.

So how will this play tonight, with Bois du Chatelet, and if it goes all the way, with Langres?

People are saying Bois du Chatelet is "American favored" right now. I don't think it is. I just think that Wehr hasn't figured out the best way to win it yet. We've seen Wehr try all sorts of different strats on this map. It's been wonderful to watch, tbh. So I'm wondering how these two pros will fare, after watching an entire season of games played on Bois. And I'm intrigued by the fact that Bois wound up the G1 and G2 map. If I had to guess (and please players don't tell, I like it that way), I would guess that Aim vetoed Ango, not wanting to face DevM's early-game Allies on that map, and DevM vetoed Argentan, not wanting to face Aim's Wehr on that map.

Then there's Langres. After DevM's experience on it yesterday vs. Sandland, how will they approach it tonight if they have to play it? If it goes that far, will the VP leader pick Wehr for sure 100%???
13 Jan 2013, 17:41 PM
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People are saying Bois du Chatelet is "American favored" right now. I don't think it is


I respectfully disagree with you. US coming down from the North too often seems like the Assyrian coming down like a wolf on the fold. And kudos to DevM for showing it is not altogether one-way traffic. But if you reread his recent interview, I'm not sure he would agree with you either. The ammo points are out on the extremes - and Wehr needs ammo.

Shoot me down in flames if you wish. :P
13 Jan 2013, 18:19 PM
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If it is Allied favored, then that's almost a good thing, because it seems that more and more maps are leaning in the other direction.
13 Jan 2013, 18:20 PM
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"US coming down from the North too often seems like the Assyrian coming down like a wolf on the fold." M-M-M-MULTI-METAPHOR!
13 Jan 2013, 19:09 PM
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I love metaphors :D
13 Jan 2013, 19:20 PM
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"US coming down from the North too often seems like the Assyrian coming down like a wolf on the fold." M-M-M-MULTI-METAPHOR!


Google George Lord Byron, not George Lord I3azor. :)

http://www.kalliope.org/en/digt.pl?longdid=byron1999041118
13 Jan 2013, 19:24 PM
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If it is Allied favored, then that's almost a good thing, because it seems that more and more maps are leaning in the other direction.


I wouldn't disagree with you on that point, but you wrote:

People are saying Bois du Chatelet is "American favored" right now. I don't think it is
13 Jan 2013, 22:03 PM
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Google George Lord Byron, not George Lord I3azor. :)

http://www.kalliope.org/en/digt.pl?longdid=byron1999041118

Byron only used one metaphor - the Assyrian came down like a wolf. You stacked two metaphors: the US came down like the Assyrian, who came down like the wolf. It's like saying "this cookie tastes like a carrot that tastes like cardboard."
13 Jan 2013, 23:21 PM
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Strong WM performance by both players.
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13 Jan 2013, 23:21 PM
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Awesome performance by Guderian, my favorite guest caster so far!
13 Jan 2013, 23:40 PM
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I like how he gets genuinely excited :P
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