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Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2022, 02:52 AMLady Xenarra

Regretfully I had a much longer post readied with section-by-section analysis (1500+ words) but the website timed me out, losing the post. I'll just get to the point before I lose my temper.



First off, nobody plays perfect. I'm going to focus on what went wrong rather than what went right. Some observations.

You don't need a rak at 3:30 when the SOV has shown to be using a cons heavy build (and very very likely T2). There's no clown car. The AT gun does nothing for a very long time and lets you get outmanned.

Centre is locked down well, but there's nothing done to punish USF for abandoning the centre (and going to the forest). The RE squad is a speedbump. The mortar(s) don't do much and instead could do a lot of damage supporting the town fighting.


This building cannot be fired out of the big doors and thus the MG is doing basically nothing. Send it to another building or set it up where it has a proper field of fire.


Kill Beacons, they give info in the minimap on units nearby.

Allies were behind for most of the midgame but the VP pressure was not really applied.

Ostwind did a lot of damage, but then was lost in an aggressive push to a KV-8 and Jackson. You (speaking about the team, not anyone in particular) should have been aware that the Allies were saving fuel as there had been no vehicles so far. The TD coming was obvious. StuG killed as well iirc, heavy loss. Lucky they weren't punished hard by USF for weapons team spam. Very nearly was by an inf push.

Took quite a risk to have no AT guns in middle, but it paid off...this time.

Questionable shootout with pzgrenschreks + StuG vs AT gun + crippled KV-8. Didn't payoff and pzgrens were wiped by Katyusha. StuG killed by Jackson coming to help. Shouldn't have tried it imho.

Panther on left doing a long range shootout with a ZiS and predictably loses. Saw it happen later at least one other time.


KT arriving could have tilted the tables but it didn't really do much. There was a sizable window where the Allies only had this above comp defending mid. Aside from the Jackson, the rest could be steamrollered rather easily. The Scott was left unpunished and barraged bunkers to destruction. The first reinforcement bunker was in an exposed position and easy to spot, thus easier to barrage. 10+ mins sitting around and giving time for the Allies to get more TDs.

JT is sent into the town area outskirts where it can't use more than half its range usually. It's asking to die there and unsurprisingly dies quickly. Much better off in mid where it can do some serious damage to the Allied TDs. Without the TDs and no real answer in this game to a properly-supported-and-micro'd JT, the Allies are finished.

5-squad blob was inevitably punished by Katyusha. Don't blob this much.

Don't be afraid to harass the right VP with a lone inf squad. This will force them to send at least 2x as much inf to kick you off it. The two maxims are in predictable locations and easily flanked. Watch out for mines.

Still no repair upgrade on one of the mech HQ despite sitting on a massive fuel float. All three of you needed the repairs. The KT could not be used as much as it was damaged. Also ate a whole arty barrage for some reason. There's no reason for you to have such a massive fuel + manpower float (1000+MP & 300+ FU at one point whilst not even 60/100 pop.). The forest could have been taken easily with one Panther + supporting inf. The two muni caches could then be destroyed.

USF doing the BS Path+Scotts combo but he’s not that good at it. Definitely beatable by what you have.

2 caches (good) but still got a safeish 3rd spot for another cache on the left.

Later on both Panthers on left engaged in a shoot out with TDs in the FoW. There's a 50%(?) accuracy penalty for this and they have full sight on you. Both Panthers are killed for nothing. Could have been averted by using a nearby volks to screen ahead and threaten faust on a damaged TD. Then you have sight but they get shot by tank in their FoW.

Rocket arty comes far far far too late (30 mins?) and USF is not punished for blobbing paras + paths.

Don't underestimate a vet III Jackson, it's extremely dangerous.

I have to stress again - Rocket arty comes too late in a campy match like Lienne. Yes there were 2 pzwerfers by 33:00 but that's produced right at the end of what I saw.

Final thoughts
Some good or even great fights for Axis, but plenty of mistakes to go around for all parties involved. I had stopped around 33:00 as I could see where the game was going. Allied TDs gradually zoning you out of the map + vehicle kills. Katy rocket arty casualties mounting, centre VP being stolen many times uncontested. VP ticker going down gradually and the match is lost on the VP count. Feel free to let me know how accurate my predictions were.