Profile of van Voort

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Literally - four 1v1s next to each other. You can still help your teammates, but overall the gameplay is more dependent on one player taking care of a certain part of the map.

Both of these designs offer a in my opinion good ratio of the values and a far better (less static / chokepoint) gameplay. I'd love to see more 4v4 maps in those looks rather than ones like Angermünde.

Given that Angermunde is designed to be a narrow map with no flanking and where both sides have reasonably secure fuel point it suceeds at it's task

It's a head on clash where tanks have problems (as they should in a city) and where you really need to work to get a flank.


I don't mind having another map that is 4 1v1s side by side because I like variety, but I'd be concerned if that gets presented as a platonic ideal.


Really almost of the maps for 4v4 are balanced, or at least the imbalances are not relevent compared to:

Differential player skill

The vagaries of the matching system

Teams being put up against Randoms

That people are afk, drop and rage quit




The only situation that I think is unbalanced is Rostov North as Germans.


Everything else is pretty even, certainly considering everything else that skews balance

I normally get all bent out of shape over tiny semantic differences, but I don't really care. Anyway, the correct names for the factions are obviously "Americans" and "un-Americans"

I think we need to form a Committee to investigate these "Un-Americans" and their activities

I don't understand at all! Because surely OKW is also part of the Wehrmacht!!!

Well Hitler did set out to make confusing.


In theory OKH reported to OKW.

However the war in the east was run out of OKH and OKW covered everything else

I'm not sure it's that useful in teamgames


For yourself you don't really need to build fuel caches, but your teammates do unless they are arranging to go heavy infantry and artillery.

That just gives you even more fuel, and it's not like you are short of munitions either.


You could probably put together and pre-planned strat that had SI as an element, but its not good in random match ups

Yeah I love these guys too, but I will almost never play them in casual matches, only with arranged teams.

Some other observations:


I like to not use them straight away but hold them back until I can tip something decisive.
They are even more effective if the enemy doesn't know they are coming, and using them gives away the fact you have radio hack.


I will disagree with you about Molotovs, because I find them useful against team weapons and caches


I believe they can also lay mines, but I always forget to do that


Artillery, Werfers and damaged tanks are all easy prey (one reason I like to deploy them later is to get a high value target like this without tipping my hand first)


Map Hack does not give you LOS for your teamates strikes, but a partisan unit can


No other doctrine gives you the ability to affect battles happening on the other side of map in the way Partisans do, this is especially true on big maps where travel times are huge.

You can pop the Partisans out to intervene in the battles and Mark Target helps taking out tough targets like Cats



Good maps:

The Classics are the Urban Ones (City 17, Angermunde, Rostov)

However they can also be useful on the Hill (where in fact they are super annoying because of where the buildings are)

I've even used them to effect on the Steppes. However the best buildings there are alone and enemies will usually destroy them eventually which means they won't be usable in the very late game


Possible Counters:

There is not much the enemy can do to counter them and most of the things that they can do are victories for you anyway.

Minefields, garissioned buildings and bunkers all take resources away from the main battle fronts.

However if the enemy knows partisans are out there they can be more careful