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But all this commanders in CoH2... I must buy them separate?.. And without buying any additional game will not be soo interesting or?..
I think I dont get it.
FOr example, I want to find smg like Terror doctrine from CoH1 in CoH2. Is it possible?

I'll point you her for how to get the game and what version to get:

http://www.coh2.org/news/37043/the-confused-consumer-a-buyer-s-guide-to-coh2


As for the rest:


Ostheer start with 6 Commanders and there are maybe 20 total.

There are 4 ways to get the rest:

1) Sign up for the Relic forums and you can get the Community Defensive Commander (which is terrible)

2) Every so often there is a special event or release that allows one to get a commander. This has happened for two separate commanders

3) Pay money in the in game store. All bar 1 are available that way. I really wouldn't bother at this stage unless you have money to spare, the 6 starting ones are perfectly ok to learn the game with. If later you decide you want to get some more then people can advise you what is good or may fit your style - or wait for free weekend to try stuff out or steam sale to get stuff cheap

4) Warspoils.

This enables you to get everything, every couple of hours or so of gameplay you get a random drop (up to 3 in fact) of Commander, Skin, Faceplate, Bulletin, Skin or Victory Strike. However you get no control over what you get and it might be for a faction you don't play

Someone better than me want to confirm that these are 34/85s?

I think they are

Releasing something broken or OP to later nerf or balance it doesn't look good at all.

Regarding if a Commander is OP or not, i'll rather go with Tiers. While outdated, this gives you a good panorama of what i'm referring to.

http://www.coh2.org/guides/33767/commander-tiers

Yes it's on my list to be done, however as I outline above I like to wait for things to settle before looking at stuff and the impact of the Brits hasn't fully worked it's way through yet.

I wouldn't put Rifle as a Tier 1 however because it suffers in larger game modes

Filthy money grabbing dlc bullshit. Should end this very day! I do not support any more Doctrines. Improve the current ones! I support your efforts however!

You remember that this one is free right?


Personally as this was "Community Designed" I would leave it and Ostheer one as they are.

Then when anyone comes along and claims that "Relic should listen more to the Community" we can point to this as what happened when they did and that maybe the professional game designers might be able to do a better job than the amateurs

* By "Community" they usually mean "Me" or if they are feeling expansive "Me and my friends and anyone else who agrees with me"


However if only as an intellectual exercise, here's my thoughts on this issue.

The Defensive Commander suffers from a number of problems:

Everything comes at once, relatively late and is expensive. At 0CP there was a point to getting this stuff out, but at 2CP you either have already had T2 up or you have gone T0-T1 and will have trouble buying all this stuff anyway.

Lack of scaling into late game, there's nothing to keep this relevant

Lack of munitions sink other than mines and demos



Therefore, with as few changes as possible:

CP0 Dishka, M42, Tank Traps

CP2 120mm

CP8 Mark Target


Dishka would get buffed so it has decent anti-vehicle performance, and the M-42 would get camo like Raketen do and maybe better AI capability.


That won't make it a powerhouse, but it would at least give some opening choices and later game viability


I wouldn't put doctrinal armour in a defensive commander because that's not how Soviets used their armour

Do you guys remember the old day? Developers an publishers used to make perfect games.

When this golden age exactly?

Before or after ET on the 2600, Daikatana or Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing?