I was planning to come here and write what FULL MADNESS was OPs soviet game. Gave up like after 10mins with literally 0 map control and went back playing Ostheer.
BTW, nice tactics there with Pios and PGrens and of course elite doctrine.
I believe that game was vs myself when he used Partisans extremely well to flank my positions, forced me back and managed to get an early T70 which ultimately finished me off due to no fuel income.
I tried out his tactic in my next game and found that Partisan Tactics is a great commander after this patch.
Actually it was.
Yea man he used them well, I think it's his specialty. Too bad it's also DLC commander.
btw After Patch:
Early Game: German Infantry rocks everything (not only Pioneers)
Mid Game: Cant get enough fuel for Soviet t3/t4 and the only nice option is to get Paks to destroy scout Cars which doing more dmg now too
Late Game: German Tanks will come to kill you and your best option is to spam Paks or dying like a nasty Pig with 1 su85/t34/76
I stated this at the other thread as well and I will try to emphasize this here also. The problem is exactly that which was already written yesterday afternoon by SturmTigerTrafalgar (I'm just showing the most important part).
I played around 4-5 games yesterday and this was the biggest problem. Pioneers are just too good for start. Soviet player will not have enough fuel at the point that Ostheer already gets tanks out. Harassment is really REALLY difficult now that every battle requires 2TO1 superiority. German player can easily build fuel caches/opel trucks etc and it is really difficult to do anything to that by Soviets because it's keeping busy to just hold on with the already captured places.
At one game we managed to get fuel income somehow in order and killed few Panthers and even one Tiger (however my last SU85 went down killing that Tiger). And we thought that we were almost equal at this point. Well then we just felt stupid when 3 tigers rolled over from the middle. At the end when we saw their side of the map which was just covering places which pump fuel (caches, opel trucks). They didn't have to sacrifice that much manpower to keep the pressure because they were sitting comfortably at their places + doing some capturing to our fuel all the time.
And I do think I use combined arms quite creatively along with covers. And also I know that I need a lot of practice of new mechanics but the point is that combination of Pios with MP40 and Grens with nice longer range it is just difficult to keep the important points at early game.
Not trying to rant here, I'm being constructive here and address my opinion about the problems. The most ridiculous part was that yesterday a lot of streamers played with Ostheer. Maybe tried few games with Soviets but not much. Only good game (that I witnessed, I'm not saying it was THE ONLY game) was played yesterday evening by Imperial Dane. He played really impressive game with Soviets.
I played several games yesterday as Soviets also and they definitely were quite horrible.
Like it has been said several times in this thread, the problem is early game. There's just no way of keeping map control (especially fuel/muni) at good level. Pioneers are so cheap and effective that suddenly Ostheer is doing the harassment. Every time we managed to get our fuel we ran into trouble with some other squads at our cut-off that required (as Peter also said) at least two squads. When moving into that direction Pioneers or some other squad went to get our fuel and there's no way to get it back with engies or any other a bit hurt squad.
Last game we played was just horrible. I think the built order was (on my side at least) 2 grens with that one Pioneer. They managed to hold back our troops enough that there was a few bunkers built at very crucial places. At the time that I had Penals ready to flank and destroy the bunkers they were coming with VET 3 222 Scout Cars (yes, elite troops on top of that). Now that's quite tricky to counter. Again because the fuel income was low as well as muni so no mines or fuel so not even a thought of building T3.
I have to say that last game was bad play from us because we already had lost few games before but I just didn't thought a way to counter that.
Just wanted to comment that good stuff, keep it up man. Definitely one of my favorite casts. Your reaction to BartonPL spinning guys was just hilarious.
First of all, I didn't find any separate thread for this, if there is one however, you can just link it here and this thread could be closed.
The idea was to gather here preferably good casts (replays are fine also, although because they require starting the game) and maybe with few comments why the cast was good. These might be from Youtube, Twitch, you name it. Just something fun to watch or also a bit educational.
I would start with this cast:
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It was a fun game and really tight, sadly it needed to end too early. Sometimes there was a bit sloppy gameplay (and a small hint as it was also said by commentator, reverse for SU85 isn't such a bad idea ).
Recently I have enjoyed watching these casts by atr3uh. Fun stuff really!
Also finals from ESL 1on1 tournament was good stuff. Any suggestions from your side?