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Ok then, what do you do as usf against kubelspam?

IF you have issues against Kubel spam, upload a replay.

You want the biggest hardcounter: go Doge commander. Such clowncar, much early push, such cheese...

Non doctrinaly: use garrison and cover. Make tanktraps for cover. I'll say RE are more effective than Rifles against them cause they won't miss.
Go LT and get an M20.

Okay I get your points, but just from a usability point of view:

How on earth should a "casual" CoH2 player know why both trenches with the same name have not only different stats (different kinds of cover, that ADDITIONALLY SHARE THE SAME ICON TOO) but differ from how can garisson them?

This is just ridiculously stupid in my point of view as nothing in the game explains these things. You literally have to go to a board like this and ask or check the game files

This is an issue that happens in most games. Having normalised behaviour seems "hard". And this is not the first and only case unfortunately.

Additionally a question from my side: Are trenches worth the time? I can't remind building a single one of them in my whole time on CoH2.

I guess you are talking about Axis ones. Yes, if you have the time.
OH: before, it was the only possible way of creating green cover (now Pios have sandbags). Still, it's makes dislodging Osstruppen annoying (defensive doctrine sucks unfortunately)
OKW: it's been a long time since i've seen Luftwaffe. I'll put MG/Raks inside for the extra protection.

Note: you can always use trenches as infiltration spawn points. I've use it to spawn commandos/Falls, and most people don't expect it.

What lose for a faction? What USF mines or arty have to do with FRP?

Not my opinion but what i think he meant is, WFA + UKF don't get access to this features or it's harder/expensive/behind commanders in favour of having this kind of things.

1- Aggressive playstyle. You don't want to play the lategame. Volks, Stuka and heavy tanks are gonna overwhelm you. If you go for the lategame, be ready to have things that are good for wiping squads. Artillery is your friend.
Try to drain VPs as much as possible.

2- Garrison. ISG don't excel against them and there's so much munition you can spend on flame nades.

3- If you go for light vehicles, you have to make them work. Light tanks aren't as drastic as before, so if you don't feel comfortable with them, just go for a quick medium or artillery.


Playing against OKW feels like you have 3 stages on which you MUST punish them if you want to have an opportunity to win the game. Till the 4min mark with clowncar and brens, 12min mark with infantry/light tanks and 16+ with your first medium and artillery.

A) Early on, as SU or UKF, M3 and Bren can be a headache, specially if they go for a Kubel. Mind you that the M3 rear gun has more DPS than the front gun, so when possible, try to use both at the same time (push units out of cover and shoot with both, not against SP). Even after getting the trucks deployed, a well microed flamer/bren can be annoying to deal with.


A') For OKW:, the timing of flamers varies depending on map and capping. But you should NOT be too way forward or split at around the 3:30 mark. 4mins is a GOOD timing for a flamer to popup. If there is practically a 50/50 map control you can check it with your own ammunition (60).

A'') For allies: 4:30 is a good timing for OKW to have his truck deployed with a "standard" 4/5 units built. It can be sooner or later depending on his timing and if he goes Med or Mech.

B) With USF/UKF, trenches and garrison. If you can deploy a Vickers on an annoying building, OKW has to commit heavily in order to be able to get it out.
Rifles, IS and Penals can and will win early on. But it's not as effective as the game drags on and they are able to pop STG and get vet.
Light tanks let's you keep momentum but they are not "gamechanger". Any of them (T70-AEC-Stuart) will put at bay a P2 or Flaktrack but won't do as much to push infantry unless solo cappers.

C) Rocket/Heavy artillery.
SU: if it's an open map, you can go for LL or T85s mark vehicle playstyle. Clusterfuck? Get any of the IL2 bombing and Howitzer.
USF: CalliOP. Anything else feels underwhelming.
UKF: LandMattress/Spec Weapons commanders. You can try either of the cancer commander if you want to go the emplacement route (standfast/Advance Emplacement).

Mediums are good against mechanized play as it will take them time till they can a tank of their own (Puma/Stuka/P2 delays Schewer).


IMO, trading vehicles is fine, infantry is not. By no means you want to fight high popcap armies against OKW, even worst high vet armies. You need to commit, take risks and end game.

We can't see it cause you are linking the file which is in your computer

But if it's as other people says, Urban Assault, don't expect it to see it soon unless some testing/balance is done to the abilities and units.