Just did some quick tests in the game. G43s are literally utter trash.
4 fights PGrens StG/G43 vs unupgraded Rangers from range 20 and 30-ish (actually the way the sandbags were set up I think it was more like 28-29)
PGrens win convincingly at range 20 with 2-3 models and ~50% HP remaining.
With G43s, they lost one fight, two fights won with about 2 models and 20-30% HP remaining and the fourth fight was literally a shootout between the last PGren and the last Ranger that could have gone either way.
At 30 range, in my tests they performed similar to maybe a bit worse to StGs. But given that it were only 4 fights, similar is a good description.
I used to get the upgrade because I heard AE and Ed80Hertz say the G43 were good on PGrens in some long ago tourney. But whenever I got it, I had the feeling normal PGrens would do just fine and looking at the tests and numbers I am pretty sure I am right on this.
There is no reason to get this upgrade. Interrogation? I could as well just get a Gren with G43s. Still a downgrade, but at least only on a 240 MP squad.
And I previously forgot about sprint. But why should I? There might be some situations where I can lob this bundle nade in, but overall it does not make sense. I don't want to close in to use my inferior DPS. And why should I sprint away just to get similar DPS compared to StGs? There are situations where this makes sense tactically, but overall it is not worth the heavy downgrade.
They have better 1v1 chasing capabilities and more guaranteed mp damage compared to focus fire false weapons?
Curious how the fight looks like after X amount of time rather than waiting for 1 squad to wipe the other one.
Reminder that you have to filter, at least for 1v1, with the top200 tab. Stats for all modes includes games from people who are at least top200 on ANY mode.
While this reduces the sample in size by half, it's still a healthy 5K games and both sides are at least top200 while playing a game.
As soon as the faction is strong and used in 1v1 tournaments, certain community members will cry non-stop until the faction is nerfed and no one uses UKF.
After a while, the balance team will get the idea to buff them slightly to make them viable and as soon as they are competitive in 1v1 again there will be nerfs because the whining will overwhelm every rational argument.
Let's not throw the blame on 1v1 alone. People were crying how strong they were on teamgames as well (we had some 2v2 tournaments as well).
The sad reality is that the last patch didn't have the permissions to go full deep on UKF and without a real rework out of Bolster to spread out it's powerspike towards other units and helping the faction have the right tools for teamgames (USF is in a similar spot) you won't see also any amount of commander diversity.
Hey, at least this time you picked the correct stats to back up your opinion.
I agree with the point that UKF is trash this patch, but you need to understand the context of the faction across the game history. I'm saying that cause i feel you are quoting me out of context.
UKF will never have 33% or higher pick rate on allied side. But the sad aspect is that you see people like Aimstrong/Hans/Asha not been able to play the faction at all. That's what i told you in the last thread you made.
And i'll maintain that a 45% WR on automatch is in the realm of acceptable.
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