Profile of Cruzz

Okw does get a panther out in about 16 minutes if they hold their fuel and a large part of the map.

How are they gonna do that without hurtung themselves ? While volks and püppchen will keep shermans/t34s at bay , you will bleed and you will lose mapcontrol in the meantime. and 4 minutes ( as 12 minutes is easily the time medium tanks come out ) is a long time in coh2 midgame.

OKW has the best infantry in the game, you really don't need any kind of vehicle support to deal with other faction infantry (atleast if you pick a doctrine with an infantry call-in, the two current commanders that don't have an overpowered call-in are quite a bit weaker off). Allies on the other hand are very much forced to get anti-inf vehicles against OKW because they just can't compete otherwise, making Panther as first vehicle quite a good choice as it'll still appear before the 10cp stuff that could potentially overrun your volk shrek AT.

And then if they get a panther its not like they got a tank that performs very well as AI.

OKW Panther MGs have a combined DPS higher than an LMG gren squad. It might not kill anything with the main gun but the MGs bleed squads quite heavily.

You forgot that OKW buildings are much more vulnerable.

Nobody is forcing you to place them outside your base, a base sector that happens to have the best defenses of all 4 factions.

FlakHQ has 1920 hp while making all infantry and light vehicle use near it impossible for the opponent. Soviet T3/T4 and Ostheer T3/T4 have 2000hp
T1/T2 trucks have 1600hp. Soviet T1/T2 and Ostheer T1/T2 have 1500hp

The only reason they're more vulnerable is because you keep placing them so badly that opponents can fire at them.

I've barely made Pumas and I'm apparently rank 6. I think you can do something to tanks even without them.

I don't agree, it's in line with the OkW high risk / high reward design.
It's an AT unit and serves as a replacements for paks and early accessible medium tanks.
Taking the fuel penalty into account it moves around the price of a t34 (without taking teaching into account).

You also seem to forget that in order to shine you need to heavily Micro it and honestly maybe less than 1 % of the players have the Micro to outplay an easy8.

You can chase it through the smoke with a tank and usually managed to hit the killing shot.

Except the Puma is more like high reward, low risk right now. It's harder to kill than T34s, Shermans, etc by a huge margin. And yes, no doubt arguing as an OKW player you wouldn't want to take tech costs into account what with OKW barely having any compared to soviets and Ostheer.

Heavy micro being A-move forward with puma, reverse, a move forward again 4 seconds later?

How do you chase a vehicle that accelerates to max speed in one second from standstill and has the highest max speed (shared with a few other, much lighter vehicles) in the game?

Another problem with buffing Cons, in almost anyway, whether with stats or upgrades, (disregarding faction infantry core units for the moment) is it just ends up further marginalising Penals.

There's like 3 or 4 people actually playing this game who still try to use penals, I'm pretty sure they can't be marginalized any further.

Engage them at long range and i believe they'll win against JLI.

The damage output difference between conscripts and jaegers is effectively the same at all ranges (jaegers outdamage 2x cons at point blank, and still outdamage 2xconscript squads at max range) so every choice that involves having conscripts square off against them is bad. The 2 conscripts will effectively always bleed atleast as bad as the single jaeger squad, unless they start the fight off by managing to focus fire a model down almost immediately.

Probably one of the most intense games I've had against a non-meta soviet commander in ages. GG WP

M42 atguns, doucheguns and penals actually doing something
Crazy tank clusterfucks
120mm mortar decimating everything
MG42s being OP
PaKs being the best freaking atgun on the planet

Also fun MG42 bug in the last 10 minutes, apparently recrewing a vet3 one sometimes gets you vet3 firing rate at vet0...