Profile of Cruzz

Yeah KV8 is so much better bang for buck than brumm.

@ Cruzz: the incendiary strike is also quite powerful, and it comes in the same doctrine.. I think the soviet doctrines are just insanely useful compared to the german ones, so it may seem to you that the kv8 one sucks but its still very good compared to german doctrines. You also get the IS 2 and ambush and shocks, doesn't sound bad to me at all. Granted shocks are expensive, but they rape. IS-2 is better than it used to be, and I think at-gun ambush is completely under-used due to the overly efficient su-85.

No, the incendiary strike is actually one of the least powerful artillery for its cost. You know that mortar halftrack some german commanders give? The 30 munition (or was it 45?) incendiary attack that it can do is pretty much exactly the same effect as the 150 muni incendiary offmap, over just a slightly smaller area.

ATgun ambush would be more useful if 1. you weren't forced to go T1 anyway to deal with MG42s and to get snipers to deal with axis infantry when you don't get hit the dirt+smgs for conscripts and 2. if atguns were actually worth anything. People aren't overlooking the stealth, they're overlooking atguns in general because they're worthless as a counter to vehicles in 95% of situations you'll find yourself in.

Soviet commanders affect gameplay more than german ones because soviets don't get access to all unit types without them, simple as that. A mirrored situation would be on where grenadiers would get no LMG42 upgrade without a specific commander, where panzergrenadier stg44s were an upgrade and shreks and stg44s were in different commander trees, and so on. Ignoring these basic unit call-ins, I'd actually say german commander abilities are far more powerful (the offmap artillery abilities are all far better on the german side, and stuff like vehicle smoke is fucking fabulous)

The IS2 is still a worthless unit that can't even beat two PIVs or a single panther by itself. It is without a doubt the worst unit in the game cost performance wise. It's like a souped up T34 without the ram in the current version.

There is probably also a c-e commander that uses the KV-8 which im not sure about. Nonetheless, having the rest of the commander be a bit less useful than other commanders does not warrant a call-in tank being overpowered for its price.

Yes, there is, and it has a similar ability list. Incendiary artillery (fairly useless), fear propaganda artillery (even less useful), shocktroops (overpriced and a really bad compliment to the KV8), some plane artillery pffmap (forgot which one and can't check right now) and KV8.

And you are really claiming that taking a commander tree that ONLY has the KV8 going for it doesn't warrant the KV8 being more powerful an anti-infantry unit than the ones that soviets already have plenty of in the form of the oft-ignored T3? No matter how powerful the KV8 is right now, I never make it, because you're giving up too much for the ability to call one in. It could be even more powerful and I still wouldn't pick either of the commanders that have it against anyone I consider a decent player.

They have far better DPS than Grens:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApmrrrPr20ncdEpuSHcxNko1VGVFYjczYXpFZWhqOHc#gid=0

Grens n/m/f: 3.803/2.415/1.027
Penal n/m/f: 5.725/3.611/1.497
That's including reload time.

You meant to say they have better DPS when the grenadiers don't have an LMG42 or G43s. They're 50% more expensive than grenadiers with less survivability and utility so I don't think wanting to see some kind of buff to them should their one trick get nerfed be that unreasonable. I'd love to see a long range weapon upgrade for munitions option on them for instance.

Either the satchel explosion radius should be reduced, or the timer increased by a bit. Everything likes to herpderp while given move orders in CoH2 so you can't really that reliably get out of it without some luck if you weren't moving before it hit the ground.

That said, it would be nice if this satchel nerf came with some kind of buff to either survivability (ie. more durability than a conscript, please) or ranged attack ability (right now a single grenadier squad is pretty much equal to them at range). Feels like they're mostly made for laming people with the two flamethrowers from a scout car and then going to their base to satchel them, in field combat they're pretty bad for cost...

To Cruzz:
MG42 in mid-late game is not insta suppressing at all. Theres a lot of light cover made by arty/mortars, squads are vetted and so on.

It only takes 2 bursts to suppress conscripts in GREEN cover, yellow means nothing. Against a HMG42 heavy start your conscripts will certainly will not be vetted past maybe vet1 from all the fire they've taken, because they will not have killed a damn thing.

MG42 can by countered by sniper and clown car (even with cons in it) and from T2 by mortar and ZIS barrage (60 muni and comes late, I know).

The soviet mortar is in every way worse than the axis one, comes out very slow and is extremely easy to dodge anyway. The ZIS barrage is fairly inaccurate for any given shot, so as long as the opponent unpacks after the first shot lands he'll most likely not lose a single member in the MG squad (mind you, the ZIS actually makes a firing noise without firing a shot before the barrage starts so you actually know in advance that the barrage is coming even if you can't see the gun). Going T2 also means no clown cars, which screws you up against everything else.

Conscripts do next to no damage from clown cars, their DPS per man is freaking awful and only 2 or so guys tend to be firing out of a clown car at any given time.

Sniper is kind of a counter except against buildings (they only hit with like one in every third shot against buildings), but I sure can't handle microing snipers in multiple parts of the map at once so it's effectively impossible for me to gain back map control with them. They also come out extremely slow, are expensive and force you to move your units in one group to counter attempts at killing them so. Plus if the game drags on they kinda become a liability with their habit of dying to any number of artillery abilities (especially the mortar halftrack incendiary, and opel strafe) in one hit.

Investing heavy in MG42 means you lack grens (and also fausts) or your tech is delayd so fast T70 will help you a lot.

1. Why on earth would your tech be delayed? There literally is no reason for this
2. You'll float a lot of munitions early on when not bothering to upgrade grenadiers with lmg42 and not going for a flameht so you can afford several mines or 2 shrek squads, both of which tend to deal with T70s nicely. Though let's be honest here, most games you tend to gain complete map control before the opponent even has enough fuel for their first T70.

Axis on the other hand can punish Maxim spammer only with Flame HT cuz sniper and mortar is useless against 6 men (+ merge ability to keep it on the field).

Nevermind the fact that on most maps you can lock down someone going for maxims in their base before they get a single one out thanks to the huge build time on the structure. Nevermind that even grenadiers can just walk up to a maxim while it's shooting at them and grenade it to hell. Nevermind you can actually reliably flank it because it has a cone less than half the size of the MG42 and will take a very long time to suppress anything. Also mortars really aren't that much less effective against 6 men squads compared to 4.

@Cruzz: If you build 3xHMGs, they become a burden when vehicles hit the field.

You'll never see a T70 before you've already won the game with your MG42 map control, so the only vehicle you'll ever actually face is Clown Cars. If you can force your opponent to invest heavily in clown cars then this is a very good thing for you, because they scale like shit past T1 (much like conscripts without the smg commander).


It's fairly obvious to me that I simply don't have the microing ability to manage to win with soviets against anyone who isn't playing stupid. Playing as axis makes me feel no such inability to compete, and most of the time when I lose as axis it feels like I was the one who did a huge screwup rather than my opponent actually managing to do anything (the other option being just huge amounts of bad luck like a flamer destroying a squad in a single burst and so on)

Every time I try to play the ratio is between 66:33 and 90:10 for axis:ruskies.

I really don't blame people going for axis either, trying to juggle clown cars and snipers just to be able to win, every single game (against people who have some sort of clue), gets stale really fast. With axis you have a ton of different options that all work, you can actually lose units and still win, and in general you always have the initiative.