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Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2014, 18:21 PMShazz

To be blunt, I'm not sure you're reading this properly at all Porygon. Most of your points are directly contradictory to things in the original post.

Kill men faster than soviet sniper team? I specifically said that it would be a change to not 1 shot 1 kill. On top of that the suggestion is that they're not 100% accurate and can miss due to cover, armor, anything else that applies to every single other small arms fire in the game. This is not even remotely the same as SSSSSS. 6 marksman squads would not inflict 6 casualties every round, they would inflict up to 6 hits of some amount of damage per round. Like every single other small arms fire.

More -predictably- survivable is a good thing, especially for Ostheer. It removes the "pray to the rng god that your mortar round lands perfectly" or even the stupid countersnipe gimmick in vCoH where if you're unlucky, you're just boned. It moves them closer towards regular infantry but still more fragile.

Completely defeat the purpose of the Soviet sniper team? This is where I don't think you actually read my post - it's a complete replacement for snipers on both sides.

G43 grens still have faust, armor, better health, don't have the longer aim time that the snipers/marksman do, and are substantially cheaper both to purchase and to reinforce. I can't see how you would think this is a replacement or obsolescence of that unit, and even if it were there are plenty of other things you could do like give the marksman 1/2 capping speed to further differentiate them.

EDIT: To be clear, if people don't like the idea then fine, I am not butthurt about it. It's just an idea / suggestion. But failing to read and jumping to conclusions like SSSSS 2.0 is not going to get us anywhere. Thanks.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2014, 15:08 PMShazz

I'm not sure how a smaller squad with 1/2 the health, no armor (in case of grens), no faust/atnade/molotov/oorah, higher cost and reinforce cost, lack of upgrades like LMG/PPSH, and vulnerable at close range due to poor accuracy would replace Grens or Cons. I might have overlooked something?

The problem it is attempting to solve is stated in the original post, but to TLDR it it's to make current snipers fit into the mechanics the whole rest of the game plays with instead of being special snowflakes.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2014, 05:58 AMFestiveLongJohns

No, but ostruppen fulfill a role within the context of the commander they are in. Comparing ostruppen to conscripts, for example, isn't really worthwhile, because one is a baseline unit and the other fills a very niche role in a single commander.

The PPSH exists within the context of only a few commanders, none of which have any late game call in tanks. Its not fair to compare it to something like the LMG42, which is available regardless of commander. The PPSH offers a strong mid game presence for conscripts that helps them scale into late game, at the cost of heavy call-ins. IMO unique commander abilities deserve to have some added strength because they occupy a slot on your commander load out, which should feel significant and game changing. We're not talking about baseline upgrades, we're talking about game defining abilities only available via commander choice, and for that reason I don't feel like its a valid comparison.