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Hardly noticeable tbh Saran.

I've won against a Flakpanzer with my vet 2 T70 before now.
Probably a combination of good micro on the T70 and poor micro on the Flak.

I agree with OP. And I'm pretty sure a good portions of this forum along with pretty much a lot of the competitive community will as well.

Before I say anything else, Dave you do realize that in the recent ESL open they forbid that doctrine on the grounds of it being unfair right? You can compare Strafe to the 85 if you want, both do different things thus making it completely incomparable. If you want to compare anything, then do it with the Russian CP-6 Strafe.

The German strafe costs 120 muni (which is made easier to achieve thanks to Opel) and you get it at CP-3, lasts for roughly 50 seconds to 1 minute meaning in that time period Soviet infantry unless in buildings are completely and utterly unusable, and as it stands you have trouble retreating due to a known bug (just another reason to do something about it faster).

It doesn't need to be targeted as it roams and doesn't act as a patrol unit so you can throw it virtually anywhere and it will do it's thing.

As well as suppressing and eventually pinning troops (retreating or not) it also deals fairly heavy damage to them (as Relic felt that a global pinning attack wasn't enough).

Now let's take a little look at the Soviet strafe.
You get it at CP-6 (that's right SIX) it costs 200 muni and is a targeted ability which usually hits roughly twice. It gives the German army a nice notice with it's smoke to say "retreat now and you're safe". It doesn't chase you, it doesn't pin you on retreat and more over it doesn't last for nearly a minute.

Lav it.

I hear what everyone is saying about the T34 ram making the Elefant useless, but what we are talking about is the tank as a single unit. Now I imagine when people are saying "just ram it" they have a means of blowing the thing up after immobilized. Maybe you move up a flank attack with 85s or ZiS.

But what I believe Hans was saying like any unit in this game it has to be supported, yes the Elefant is a powerful single unit, but it has it's weaknesses like every unit. you can't expect (good) players to throw a Elefant at you unguarded, you need P-Grens and the likes to defend it versus the T34 "Ram". Just like you need units after the T34 "Ram" to take it down.