In all honesty, this has to be the most biased 4v4 balance thread in a long time. Allies have been slightly stronger in team games since the changes to panther accuracy. Before that, it has been allied superior arty spam vs panther spam, as can be seen in older 4v4 tournaments. For the past year, we havent had any 4v4 tournaments except the "4v4 new meta " if i recall correctly. In that tournament allies dominated. And the reason for that was Jackson + Firefly > Panther.
Outside of tournament play, if you want to carry 3 mediocre people to victory, you got to make offensive plays. Bleeding manpower and locking down points is often not enough when facing good opponents. That is the reason, why vetting rocket artillery is so strong if rushed. For the same reason, Units like Brummbaer, USF Sherman, T70, IS2, Curchill AVRE, USF mobile Howitzer are OP as fuck when played properly.
I have seen high level players carry so hard with various USF builds, it all comes down to a l2p issue rather than balance.
1. Whats your guys opinion on 4v4 balance right now? I have played alot of Axis recently and they
just feel lackluster compared to Allies/Soviets after the Panther nerv. This shouldnt be a
random Allies are OP thread but rather a discussion wheter my statement is true or subjective.
2. How are you supposed to climb the 4v4 ladder with 3 randoms? Looking at the 4v4 top 10, some people have insane winrates with many games under their belt. How is something like that achievable when 1-2 people leave after the first push every other game and you receive a random loss from sync error every now and then. I have seen people on stream playing at rank 17 and not even using hotkeys while i crawl around 10-11. Is this just a case of get good or is 4v4 subject to too much randomness? Or do you just have to build extreme cheese?
Hi
I have some questions regarding OKW in 4v4 with 2-3 Randoms:
- How to counter early mg-spam (soviet)?
- Wich doctrines complement each other the best? I am currently running Luftwaffe/Scavenge/Elite
Panzer or Breakthrough but i am stuck on Luftwaffe most of the times in order to have access to
strong close combat units and smoke screen.
- When to save up to a Kingtiger /Panther instead of getting some midgame tanks like p4?