Profile of Rosbone

Well, it's completly alright if they don't like it but some dudes seem to have a problem with the simple fact that other players have still fun with the game (despite all known issues) and just want to have a good time. I know a lot of players in my group that prefer CoH3 over CoH2. Why do they have to defend themselves? I think that's the bigger problem.

My stance is that Coh3 is missing several features I would call critical/required. Those features would not stop many people from having fun. You should not take any critical stances as a stab at you as a player who enjoys Coh3. Play all you want, we are all jealous we cant enjoy it as much as you do.

The game can be fun and has great bones. That is why everyone is here talking about it critical or not. It CAN get better. We WANT it to get better.

But will it??? Relic does not seem to care. Just like they never cared about Coh2 match making. etc etc etc. The only way to get Coh3 better is to flame Relic as often and as loud as possible.

There is no need to take criticism as a negative. It comes from a positive place. Improving Coh3.

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Why do they have to defend themselves?

When I said we should all uninstall and move on, I meant the people who are not happy. If you are happy, keep playing. It may get worse for a bit but eventually should get better.

There has been a lot of copium spread about how Coh2 launch was bad. I did not interpret AE's video as more of that. I took it as "here are the facts" and "for those of us left, it should get better but not for a while". He even says "dont play Coh3 for a while". I took these Coh2 missteps as a guide on the timeline AE expects for Coh3 to get better.

One thing AE has been saying publicly for over a year is that he wants to step away from Coh casting. He wants to stop being the "biggest" coh tournament streamer.

When he first said that, I interpreted that as "Coh3 will be coming soon, so I want to slow down casting Coh2 since it will be dead soon".

After seeing what a complete trash release Coh3 is, as far as a streamer is concerned. I now interpret AE's stepping away as "I have been working with Relic on Coh3 for years and realized it was going to be a disaster."

Imagine being a streamer and wasting your weekends away from your family and spouse/girlfriend trying to build a loyal fan base. Then seeing the future when Relic hands you the burning turd that Coh3 is. Knowing that the only thing Coh3 is going to accomplish is destroying the fan base you helped cultivate. Would you feel disappointed? Would you be mad? How would you respond?

AE in all actuality is just another victim having their time completely wasted by Relic and their insane level of incompetence.

I have no skin in the game. I dont ever want to make a map for coh3. I stopped mapping back in coh2. I dont necessarily even want to play Coh3. And I am personally furious at how poorly Coh3 was executed. Because of how it is destroying the coh community on every level.

The only thing that could save Coh3 for me is if Relic/Sega starts firing some management. If any other company in the world did what they did, the company would immediately let some people go just to save a bit of the companies reputation and stock price.

For some reason, anything computer based is allowed to be a complete and utter disaster and its fine. Imagine if your car worked like Microsoft Windows. "Oh your car just accelerates and turns into a wall for no reason. Just turn it off and back on again. Sorry your kids are dead, you can make more." Another example of people just being cows and going with the flow.

Personally I think everyone should stop playing Coh3 to send a message. The reality of the situation is "its just a game and it will get better". And that is the same feeling I got from AE's video.

STATE OF COH3
Great video by AE about the state of Coh3. Did a good job of comparing the state of Coh2 at the start and Coh3's rocky beginnings.

Sadly for me, the video reinforces what I have been saying since I had first dealings with Relic. The community cares 1000x more about the game than Relic does.

AE's point of community working with Relic is what made Coh2 great. We all hoped Relic learned that and did not repeat DOW3.

People here are learning editors, making videos, running tournaments, creating web pages for stats and leaderboards, etc for a game that is practically still born. Then you watch a Relic stream and the employees streaming dont know the basics of the game they are playing. Relic only has a few games. They cant be bothered to learn about the games they are making or representing? Red Flag?

Even the video we are talking about goes way beyond anything Relic has done so far.

Community putting in minimal time making missing art files, Janne creating content Relic should have done, etc all points to Relic does not care.

I guess I got my hopes up too much when I heard all of the community members that Relic hired. These people will surely bring the passion most Coh players have. So I expected too much. My bad. A few good people cant carry the dead weight of a whole company. I should know this from playing 4v4.

THE BAD
The bad has been beaten to death by everyone and for good reason.

THE GOOD
As AE points out, Coh3 can become a great game. I am pretty sure everyone believes this also. It has great bones. The question is how long will it take.

I do not play 1v1, but it appears the 1v1 mode is in the best state. That gives hope to the other game modes. They will get there eventually.

Most streamers are playing 1v1. The higher mode streamers have slowly disappeared or never started streaming at all.

The last few updates have ranged from anemic to practically a death blow to the game. With the Console release upcoming, my personal view is the game is dead for at least 6-12 months. Knowing Relic cant execute the simplest tasks in less than 6 months, I fear it will take more like 2-3 years.

Like AE, I would suggest everyone not playing 1v1, go back to Coh2 until the game is done baking. At least then the player base for Coh2 can rebound to a point of getting better games.

THE JOKES
AE stated he really felt relic should have included community maps early to boost content. I agree 100%. However, most mappers that have worked with Relic over the years have publicly slammed them for their incompetence time and time again. Not naming names.

You are not smarter than the rest, you are not a detective, you do not even have the education, knowledge or experience to connect these dots.

Are you sure? Do you have proof? Please link an article or legal document. Just kidding of course.

This has been a great read all day. I have learned all sorts of new things.

Please keep it going so we can forget, for a short while, what a complete mess Coh3 is at the moment.

What I keep seeing over and over is that no matter what side of an argument people are on, they all agree Coh3 is a steaming pile of maggot infested excrement. It is the glue that binds us against our common enemy.

Yuengling >> all other beers.

There is nothing even woke about this game.

I think GDots main point was the COH3 campaign was based on the plight of Jewish North Africans. When you hear WW2 North Africa you envision large glorious battles, etc. You would expect a story line that follows the generals etc to get a feel for what was happening strategically at the time. Since this is a strategy game.

I have not played the SP stuff so I am only guessing what the campaign was about from his post. I could be way off.

But it sounds like it was ESG based feel good stuff and not strategic battle stuff.