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Are you asking why the T34 and IS-2 share the same damage value?

for example, yes, but there are more tanks/vehicles that stats values are not more less realistic.

If IS-2 share same damage as T34 because unit cost must be adequate to unit value, then why not just increase MP cost and increase damage on it?

http://pqumsieh.com/2014/01/27/means-of-balance/

edit: the formulas we use for tanks are a bit more complex, but this should give you a small looking into the inner workings. We never rely on these numbers, they are merely there to guide our design and establish a baseline.

Thanks for sharing with this, but I'd like to know something about your formulas to vehicle stats, some are really illogical, like 160 damage on IS-2 and T34

I was curious, how Relic balance devs are planning their unit balance balance? We see new patches with big changes, and people must get use to them, that's what probably most of us dislikes. Best way, in my opinio to get game balanced is to create some formulas on units (mostly tanks and vehicles) statistics, for examples:

real Tank weight = Tank HP (also modifiers depending on Tank class)
Gun caliber = Tank damage (higher the better obviously)
real Tank reloading = same as in real but reduced by for example 25%
muzzle velocity = penetration, also depending on range
real tank rotating, turret rotating = same as in real but rotates faster by like 25%
Tank firing range = let's say 500m in real is 5 range in game (higher values for weapon support guns)
Fuel combustion = Fuel cost
Tank armour = take real values * 1,5 * armour angle


Now let's take a look how tank stats look in game, let's take Tiger, IS-2, Stug, T34


Stug:
HP:400
Armor (front/rear):140/70
Manpower-Fuel cost: 230/80
Reload: 3,5-4,5
penetration(on min range):130
damage:160

Tiger
HP:1280
Armor (front/rear):300/180
Manpower-Fuel cost: 640/230
Reload: 4,7-5,3
penetration(on min range):220
damage:160

IS-2
HP:960
Armor (front/rear):340/205
Manpower-Fuel cost: 640/230
Reload: 6,2-6,6
penetration(on min range):250
damage:160

T34
HP:640
Armor (front/rear):150/75
Manpower-Fuel cost: 310/100
Reload: 6,2-6,8
penetration(on min range):120
damage:160


Conclusions:
- Stug and T34 had similar gun calibers so same damage inflicted is ok, but i disagree that Tiger and IS-2 should deal same damage as Stug and T34, that illogical
- I dont have exact informations about gun reloads on those tanks but I doubt that IS-2 had same reload as T34 and slightly higher than Tiger
- 26,5 tone T34 have 240 HP more than 24 tone Stug.
- 52mm T34 has more armor and 80mm Stug, 160mm IS-2 vs 120mm Tiger, in game difference between those two tank armour is only 40, also, their rear armour isn't too big like 205 and 180?

Of course I could give more examples but it would take many hours to do that.

I'd like to know from Relic devs, are you guys using some formulas for unit stats or they are more less random?

Discuss.

The increased armour and penetration as well as main gun damage on the T34-76 still means it's useless?

each german armour got p;enetration buff, even Pak40, so armor increase on T34/76 doesnt mean much, penetration and damage increase might change the thing but 2 sec reload increase is too much for this tank

Barton is expert with that.

once I succeeded to see black tits MVGame