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Thread: CPU usage difference between systems and optimization6 Sep 2020, 19:41 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2020, 13:34 PMCyanara No worries. Best of luck, and I hope it helps. Ultimately though, we're all just hoping for COH3 to be released on a much better engine I just tested Fields of Winnekendonk, 3v3 (again all expert AI): Lowest possible settings: Starts at 100 FPS, 10 minutes after: Average FPS goes to 24 Highest possible settings: Starts at 60, 10 minutes after: Average FPS goes to 23 So no matter the settings, the FPS will drop to that average. My God the optimization is horrible In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: CPU usage difference between systems and optimization5 Sep 2020, 17:43 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2020, 14:30 PMblvckdream I used to run an i5 6600k and a RX 480 and have way more FPS. When I start a 2v2 I have 120+ FPS and it never goes below 50-60 FPS in late game arty fests either. My settings are mostly ultra with AA on low because the higher AA levels don't make the game look better at all IMO and only cost FPS. I don't play 4v4 but in 3v3 I never have dips to 25-30 either. A few weeks ago I upgraded to Ryzen 7 2700X because MSFS 2020 runs like shit on quadcore CPUs with HT and the performance is basically still the same for COH2 as I expected. There are random games every now and then that are super laggy for no apparent reason but normally your set-up should be more than enough for COH2. I also think that the setup is more than enough. I'm getting another RAM stick to see if the increased bandwidth will help in this CPU heavy game. I'm positive that there is no throttling as the temps are good and Firestrike gives consistent results. + the core/memory/cpu clock line is as flat as it can get in MSI during the whole game. 1077 for GPU core 2000 for GPU mem 3400 for CPU and I highly doubt that on lower settings than blvckdream's RX 480 is fighting, that 200 MHz higher core clock on boost delivers such massive difference. Especially since COH2 is not GPU heavy and in GPU heavy games the growth is linear when it comes to core clock on GPU. EDIT: Btw. thanks for sharing your own experience. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: OKW vs UKF5 Sep 2020, 17:33 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2020, 15:01 PMmr.matrix300 snip It worked for me plenty of times. Raketen + MG into luchs with volks vs brits usually netted me a win mid game and a loss early game (hence capping points and avoiding fights). Almost all the time it was vs UC + AEC hence the raketen. I especially didn't have a hard time at all vs IS spam into AEC. Truth be told, those custom games were vs rank 500 3v3 Brit players which are MEH at best. Truth be told x2, I do not know if that would work in high ranking games, but for me it worked. And 2v2 LeiGs worked best(as you have said), but I seldom tried to find the ranks of the people I played against/with so that part is questionable. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: CPU usage difference between systems and optimization5 Sep 2020, 12:51 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2020, 11:13 AMCyanara Oh, I didn't pay attention to your RAM. RAM clock speed and latency makes a substantial difference to performance for all Ryzen CPUs due to it controlling the Infinity Fabric speed that links the CCXs. Your CPU would have 2 CCXs containing 4 cores each, and those CCXs trying to communicate to each other would be the greatest source of latency (and therefore bottlenecking) in your CPU. The optimal RAM speed for Ryzen CPUs before you hit diminishing returns is "3200Mhz" and higher. At "2400Mhz" for your current RAM there is definitely room for improvement in your CPU's performance. Latency also matters with RAM. The 'CL' number is the most important, but it is completely relative to the clock speed. So you should try and buy RAM with the lowest CL number you can reasonably afford at a given clock speed. CL16 is a good one to aim for with 3200Mhz DDR4. As for dual channel, I don't have data for COH2, but this JayzTwoCents video makes for a pretty compelling argument to always use it: https://youtu.be/bm4U_S_5dSo?t=643 I would also just generally recommend having 16GB (2x8GB) of RAM for gaming in general these days. If you have your settings maxed out, then long games on large maps could quite possibly be causing your 8GB of RAM to fill up and page to your hard drive, which could definitely tank performance. I know your dad's also has 8GB, but there may be other stuff on your laptop also using RAM. Close any unnecessary background programs, and then try turning textures right down and seeing if it makes a difference. If it helps, then bump up textures by one level at a time. So all in all, I would first try lowering textures and closing background programs (especially browsers) to see if that helps. But regardless, if you find you have the money for something similar to 2x8GB of 3200Mhz CL16 RAM, you are likely to see a noticeable improvement in performance for all your games. There are an abundance of tech videos on Youtube showing real-world benefits in the double digit range. The biggest problem I'm seeing is that most laptop RAM seems to be 2666Mhz or lower, so if you look at upgrading you may have to shop around to find something better. Good luck. Tyvm. Much appreicated. The memory stick I ordered for dual channel is this one Samsung M471A1J43CB1. It's identical to the one inside and this Asus laptop (3 years old), won't support speeds above 2400 MHz without some serious custom BIOS tweaking which I won't do for one game since all other games run perfectly fine 60 FPS. Thanks again for an extensive research. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: OKW vs UKF5 Sep 2020, 11:09 AM (1v1)Take fights all over the map. Don't blob vs brits. Stall for a luchs and then you can f*** him. If he's spamming infantry like that your friends are: MG34, Luchs, Leig. Since IS is superior to volks early on, don't overextend and force fights. Cap what you can, fight in cover, stall for a luchs or leig. 4 IS + UC will seriously hurt the manpower for Sappers/AT and since IS have no snare, it's easy against them. (2v2) double OKW, one goes battle, other mech. Same thing. OKW + OST: synergize with MG42s In: COH2 Balance
Thread: CPU usage difference between systems and optimization5 Sep 2020, 09:51 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2020, 02:22 AMCyanara snip Thanks for the great clarification. So in other words, nothing I can do about it. Do you think that going dual channel would help with the FPS? 2v2 on most maps is steady 50+ FPS 3v3 dips from 90 FPS to average 25-30 4v4 dips a bit more with average 20 FPS in long long arty spamfests. 1v1 runs fluently for the whole game. I tested those only with AI since I can't really multitask and steadily check the FPS while playing vs people and MSI afterburner for some reason won't log AVG FPS, nor minimums. It's a shame that it was rushed like that. Being able to play Witcher 3, high, fluently at 60 and not COH2 at custom low/high setting is a bummer. Thanks for the extensive reply. Much appriciated. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: CPU usage difference between systems and optimization5 Sep 2020, 09:40 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2020, 07:34 AMblvckdream No, your laptop is not stronger. It has the same GPU but 300 Mhz less GPU clock and that is a huge difference. Also the i5 4670k has a slightly better single and dual core performance than your Ryzen 5 1600 and because the game can't utilize more than 1-2 cores and doesn't make use of hyperthreading at all it will likely perform better. The reason why the R5 1600 runs the game on a lower CPU usage % is because most of its 6 cores and 12 threads are idle while the i5 4670k only has 4 cores. This is the reason why you have less FPS on the laptop compared to your desktop. COH2 is optimised so poorly that you could plug in the latest i9 or Ryzen 9 and it wouldn't make a significant difference due to how badly the engine is designed for modern hardware. GPU is weaker and it translates into 10 FPS less in Graphics test in Firestrike (which is expected for 300 MHz less core clock), but 8k more in phyiscs (7096 vs 15132) and combined test is only 4 FPS less on laptop. Overall scores are the same (10650 for laptop, 10800 for desktop). Overall, yes, the GPU is weaker but the laptop by itself is stronger. A bit weaker gaming but much stronger workstation. Anyway, thanks for clarifiying that the engine is s*** and ineffective. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: CPU usage difference between systems and optimization4 Sep 2020, 19:59 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2020, 19:29 PMblvckdream Comparing laptop performance to desktop performance? Given the fact that the laptop is stronger, yes. It's a desktop Ryzen chip and RX 580 desktop chip with only difference being it's downclocked cause of the power/temperature. Still, those 300 MHz is GPU bound and reflects in the difference of FPS in most GPU intensive games. No matter the settings, the CPU on i5 4670k (4 core, 4 thread, much less cache than ryzen) is always used effectively while the ryzen is not. Also, it's not throttling in any way. Laptop temps are 65C/63C CPU/GPU and desktop 73C/55C CPU/GPU. Even the temps are better in the laptop. Final argument. Laptop has better benchmarks in physics parts of 3Dmark since the GPU is a bit stronger in the desktop. Still, laptop RX 580 is more than enough to handle COH2. Given all that. Yes, I am comparing laptop to desktop In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: CPU usage difference between systems and optimization4 Sep 2020, 18:58 PM System 1 (desktop): RX 580 8GB (1380 GHz boost) i5 4670k 3.6 GHz 8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz 2x SSD + 2 TB HDD (game on 7200rpm HDD) System 2 (laptop GL702ZC Asus): RX 580 4GB (1077 boost) Ryzen 5 1600 3.4 GHz 8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz SSD + HDD (game on 5600 HDD) Windows and stuff like that is pretty much the same. Settings are also the same. High Image, High textures, Low snow, off Physics, off Vsync and AA.. On my father's desktop the CPU usage when playing a 3v3 game with/vs Expert AI (don't know if Easy/expert uses more CPU power) is constantly in the range of 60-80, which is great and the FPS starts at 100-110 and steadily decreases to 40-50 during the later stages of the game as more stuff in happening. On my workstation laptop the CPU usage is constantly in the range of 20-40 and the FPS starts at 70-90 but as the game progresses, it decreases to 20-35 which is much lower than the (CPU/RAM weaker) desktop. Why is the utilization of Ryzen so much lower than the Intel i5? Is it because the game was made before ryzen were out and as such the optimization for that processor is poor? The 20% utilization is really really low. I'm used to playing this game with 25 FPS but those moments when I visit my parents every now and then, this game is one of the few that runs better on a weaker system. Can anyone explain this phenomenon? Also does anyone know if the dual channel would help the laptop? I've ordered another (identical) RAM stick of 8GB for the laptop to put it in dual channel mode. Anyone have any experience with dual/single differences? In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: Limit to 1 ALL heavys3 Sep 2020, 23:37 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2020, 18:14 PMLeo251 Hi guys. I encounter big problems dealing with multiple KV1 and/or vanilla Churchills. Axis, specially Ost, have no proper counters to them. Ost has no TD to pen them, and Pak die too fast. Only Panther is "good" against them, but they miss too much on the move, and the ROF is too high. Even panther is horrible at killing them. I was wondering what do you think of limiting them by max 1 per time, just all of the other heavys in the game. I don't think I've ever seen you not complain about Allies OP. To deal with KV1 as OST: P4 flank (KV1 has piss poor penetration and movement) Panther Puma Pak + snare Pgrens with shrecks in yellow cover as OKW: P4 flank Puma Panther, Raketen + snare Churchill: Same stuff Or if you really want a limit on those vehicles, then get ready for major buffs to them cause they are infantry support heavies with really poor AT/maneuverability. Not generalist heavies like Tiger or IS2 or KT. In: COH2 Gameplay