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Seeking and Creatife beating Imperial Dane is a balance issue?

"you cant cap anything" arty. (no idea how that perimeter overwatch bs is still in the game btw)

I heard it's not as good in 3v3 and 4v4 because of the map size. Maybe that's why they haven't nerfed it yet. It's broken in 1v1 and 2v2 for sure. If you have 1-2 muni caches and decent map control it's really oppressive. Even though I find myself usually spamming Concentration Barrage and not having the muni for it when I play Royal Artillery.

Mirage said on stream to balance he'd something like a second of reload and look at health/armor. Which I think is a good solution, because the slower reload will make it worse against medium armor than say a StuG, but the certain penetration will make it much more desirable against anything heavier - which is what you want the Panther for.

Well the Panther has 260-240-220 penetration. I don't see how that is not enough after the IS2 armour nerf.

Comet/AVRE/Croc has 290 armour so it will pen them at a very high % already.

KV1 has 270, KV2 has 300, ISU and IS2 have 340.

Pershing has 270 armour.

The Panther feels a bit lacking I agree but not because of penetration. It's more because it's somewhat difficult to use the mobility to full effect because you always need to micro every shot on the move by ordering stop shortly before you expect the shot to go off. If the Panther had more accuracy on the move it would be pretty good. This or slightly lower reload so it shoots a bit faster.

Obviously the Panther could also get 200 DPS with a reload nerf but I am not really sure if that is a good idea because it would make it worse against Allied 640 HP TDs. You will still need 4 shots to kill them but it will take you more time to do so. That's why I don't really like the 200 DPS suggestion. Also not sure if a Panther 4 shotting a Comet is such a good idea. It would be fine vs T34/85 but against Comet? Comet costs 175 fuel and 500+ MP. It would make Comets pretty much useless as soon as a Panther shows up. Comet already doesn't have the range, reload speed and penetration to fight Panthers as it is so the balance in that regard is fine. Panther has more AT capability and will 1v1 the Comet but the Comet is better vs infantry because of main-gun AOE, grenades and the phosphor round.

I'd personally would like the Panther more geared to killing premium medium tanks, heavies and non-640 medium tanks. Axis already have a lot of units geared to killing mediums and since Axis don't have anti-heavy TDs, that should be the Panthers role.

It would need adjustment and testing, but it'd focus on having a 200 damage gun vs those types of units along with possible penetration adjustments.

Even if it was accurate, most mediums can be defeated by a variety of other units. You can already dives lightly supported TDs with blitzing PIVs that are around earlier, can mop up infantry and put pressure throughout the map for less cost, pop, and in the case of Ostheer, tech.

"But mirage, it would club the Comet and T34/85!"

That's kind of its point of deploying the Panther. If the enemy is bringing the higher end tanks to the field, this is what is going to be fielded. And it's AI isn't super crazy so there is still ATG support, TDs, snares, etc.

Panther penetration is already good enough as it is after the IS2 nerfs. I don't think it should have a 100% chance to penetrate Comets, AVRE, Crocodile or KV2.

I also think it's SU85 and Jackson that should lose some of their penetration buffs from vet and not Panther getting even more penetration. I want armour to actually matter. Vet 2 SU 85 and Jacksons are just silly. I don't see why they should have enough penetration to drive up to Jagdtigers and kill them from the front. At the same time, Firefly should get some penetration buff with vet because even at vet 3 it only has 210 at max range which is not enough against heavy tanks. Considering Firefly is supposed to be good vs heavy tanks this is a weird design choice. Having a hard-hitting gun with slow reload is fine but not if it can't penetrate reliably.

Giving the Panther 200 damage without any reload compensation seems too OP to me too.

In my opinion, slightly buffing the moving accuracy and/or reload is enough for the Panther. I don't understand the problem of T34/85 and Comet either, Panther counters both very well already.

No matter what you might think about the balance. The way this thread went is just sad. It's disrespectful to the voluntary work of the balance team and almost none of the claims that were made are backed up with any solid arguments. Instead a Twitch clip of a guy blobbing is brought up as proof a faction is OP. As I pointed out before, blobbing is an issue for many factions. USF and OKW blob non-stop since release.

Critical thinking seems to be completely missing and certain people just fall into this group think hysteria. No one knows how the balance really at this point in time.

There were some valid points made by Orangepest and Fire for example but overall people really need to relax and give it some time.

If UKF stomps everyone next weekend in AE's tournament I am sure the balance team will nerf them soon.