Profile of easierwithaturret

Sometimes the stun nade just interrupts the retreat or prevents it from being ordered for a second or so. Nothing wrong with that, a handy tool that can be mitigated with the right play.

On the other hand there is the effect where sometimes the stun doesn't wear off and the unit can no longer receive any orders. The cursor turns to the one you get when you hover over an enemy outside an ATG/MG/IG's current cone of fire. The longest I've seen this last is about 15-20 seconds because no unit affected by it survived longer than that. I don't know if it's literally permanent but it might as well be; if you're trying to retreat a squad it's probably already in bad shape, if it's also hit by a stun grenade it's not going to take much to finish it off.

Yeah it's a bug and a nasty one at that. It's not limited to any specific unit, I've seen it affect many different infantry units.

It's a fun, fast game where the skill is more about tactics and positioning than insane micro or calculated macro.
There is a pretty high skill ceiling so always more to learn.
The way you interact with the map gives you many ways to play and ensures every game is a little different.

The whole deal with certain factions having marked advantages in early vs late game.
The gradual lethality creep and introduction of one-shot wipe units in a game that's meant to be about unit preservation.
Wacky faction designs.
OP premium commanders that get nerfed after they've made their sales.

Other RTS games are either dead, expensive, or I've played them to death.

Grens are fine. They might not be the strongest in terms of raw power but they still have the best snare, an excellent grenade (that is basically free to unlock) and the best-value weapon upgrade. They are prone to wipes from HE weapons and a 5th model would help overcome that, but sadly I think the rebalancing would just be too complicated at this stage.

As for PGrens it's a bit more complicated. They still excel in the AT role, especially when used against isolated TDs. Against SU and UKF infantry, they are fine. Against riflemen, they struggle because of the small difference between the two units' optimum ranges. They don't really work as an assault unit against emplacement-heavy UKF play either due to their squishiness and the ability of brace to nullify any surprise attacks.

Part of the problem with PGrens is people trying to use them as point-blank assault troops, which they are not. They aren't an all-round combat unit either. They're a situational unit that performs certain roles very well and others somewhat well. Once you accept that, the issue doesn't seem too great - no faction will build every available unit in every game.

That said PGrens would benefit from a change to their vet1, either to a passive regen or the ability to use medkits on themselves out of combat. The cost of their nade could come down a little, as could the cost/time of their reinforcement.

As for the rest of Ostheer, I believe their problems come down to 3 things:

1: Inflexible doctrines - Ostheer doctrines have some great abilities but they just add to what's already there. They don't offer much of a means to adapt to the game as it develops. Some offer alternate builds (e.g. AssGrens, Osttruppen) but they just end up locking you into a certain build.

2: Lack of aggressive options for tackling UKF emplacements - Flamepios, Pgrens, AssGrens or flame HT are all squishy and easily countered by Bofors/Brace, while long-range mortar/Pak attacks are defeated by mortar pit/Bofors barrage. Sure 2 x PzWerfers will grind down sim city, but it makes for a boring game.

3: Ineffectiveness of MG42 against rifle blobs - Pretty simple. Doesn't suppress quickly enough, too easily countered by smoke grenades.

Any unit that can be massed cheaply and counter both vehicles and infantry is just cheese. At the very least the upgrade needs to be returned so they cannot be massed so quickly and cheaply..

I mean, how many times can light vehicle meta be fucked up, how many times will relic overbuff light vehicles then nerf them. How hard can it be to learn from previous examples.

Personally I think this change is just fucking braindead and another failure in this game..

This is an example of why devs need to be careful when listening to community feedback. For years people were begging for the 222 to be buffed into a stronger combat unit better at AT. Finally Relic gave in to the whining, and 222 spam meta is the result. The 222 doesn't need the 50% health bonus, it never did, it just needed to be made better at its original role (scout/screening unit, sniper hunter).

All that aside I think 222 spam is just a fad. I'm sure making one or two 222s will be a more common part of the OH meta, but building more than 2 will likely be an occasional strategy that either wins you the game early or sinks you from delayed access to the critical t3 armour.

I don't think buffing the 222 was the assistance that OH needed but now that it's happened it is certainly better than nothing. All it needs is a small cost increase and it'll be fine.

Is anyone else experiencing frequent disconnects as of late? I have a bad netconnection so dropouts are a fact of life, but it seems lately I can't get through a long game without getting disconnected.