Profile of ClassyDavid

One thing you can compare OST to UKF is USF currently. OST can get Sniper and a Grenadier squad by the time USF second Rifle squad hits the field thanks to OST 80 MP increase. Right now the current counter to OST sniper are light vehicles but then you release that Wehrmacht can get a 222 by a time that USF LT M20 comes onto the field. A UC of Brits did jack diddly squat against OST sniper in Alpha. (For those who didn't know if you faust that UC, it had no Engineers to repair it till the next tier. That means you had to spend munitions to repair it till than and good luck if OST just lets you self repair.) Another factor to take into account is the 222 changes with no longer requiring munitions meaning that one more tellar mine to destroy that light vehicle hunting down that tough, survivable sniper. This just snowballs into more and more power for the OST as UKF is bleed dry and forced off the field. How can you make a counter with no MP or map control?

When you compare OST sniper to Soviet sniper no one can deny how much better OST sniper is. He remains effective against both Allied factions (ESPECIALLY USF) while Soviet Sniper remains SOMEWHAT effective against OKW. I rarely get affected by Soviet snipers as OKW but as USF playing against OST? You can bloody count on it that it hurts. Like Comm_Ash was saying how effective OST sniper was against 6 man Shocks and Guards due to high reinforcement. Basically that is always happening to USF, constantly bleeding high cost models. Do you realized the rage of Axis players if Soviet sniper got a rate of fire increased to match OST bleed against USF right now? You bet your arse there would be landslides of topics nerfing the Soviet sniper. Mind you USF have only somewhat less reinforcement cost to Brits. What is happening to USF WILL be worse and harder for UKF. Mind you USF already has struggles with OST sniper due to that snowball effect and bleed.

Note: I was in alpha and I almost won EVERY match against Brits when using OST sniper from the fact they couldn't do a bloody thing. Did you know what those Brits did who won? Broken Commandos was the only thing they could do to take out my OST Sniper.

When people are talking about simply counter sniping OST sniper with Allies and USF have no snipers

I could see the Sherman becoming more durable through veterancy. Would be a interesting new veteran level and help out with Sherman scaling a bit.

Ello gents, while there are many abilities in this game that are useful, some are rather dubious worth. Mainly on the Soviet side but nevertheless Relic has stated they are looking into veteran abilities overall but knowing them we simply don't know when or what they'll bring. So I decided to just cobble up this list of abilities (Mainly Veterancy ones but also other that are purchased or gained through other means.) Hopefully we can figure out a way for these abilities into a more useful or balanced state. Of course this can expand/change as people add on and better (more agreed on) suggestions are suggested! (The TL;DR will contain the shorten changes at the bottom, the list below will go in more depth of way.)

Soviets: Earlier in this game Soviets have had some of the best and most infuriating forms of abilities like precision strikes. While Soviets do still have useful abilities many are rather of dubious worth nowadays.

Molotov: Being 125 MP and 25 Fuel to purchase while also having one of (if not THE) longest throwing animations one would expect a good grenade. Sadly this is not the case. Doing rather low amount of damage thanks to the flame changes in July, Molotov's are useless outside of building clearing or denying cover. There are multiple cases of enemy troops standing in the flames for a good five seconds and receiving minimal damage.

Suggestion(s); On the initial impact those affected will "catch" fire doing 20 or greater HP damage over a few seconds. Or make it were it'll will do a flat damage on impact. (If you get caught by a Molotov you should be punished appropriately.) OR/AND Reduce speed of those caught in flames either through initial impact or walking through the flames. (This will make it harder for Axis troops to disengage allowing Soviet units to stay close and deal damage.)

DShK 12.7 HMG Armored Piercing Rounds: This is Relic logic showing again. A more expensive and bigger caliber round HMG doing less damage and penetration to a cheaper, smaller caliber, and earlier HMG. The MG42 Incendiary Rounds to be precise. I have used these constantly to figure out how effect the AP rounds but yet to find them useful outside of tickling half tracks, puma's, and scout cars. At least it can take out Kubel quickly! (To understand how awful the ability is I had spotted a Flak Half track approaching one of the buildings in Semoski so I activated it and pointed it in the correct direction and waited. Once the Flak Half track came into range it set up, fired at the building for a good 10 seconds or so before pulling back. My DShK was firing non stop at it and only took out half it HP in that time. A MG42 with incendiary rounds will take out a USF AA Half track in two or three bursts within 4 or 5 seconds...)

Suggestion; Just copy and paste the MG42 incendiary rounds to AP rounds and call it a diddly day. This would make the DShK extremely threatening light vehicles rather than tickling the enemy jibbles.

Tracking (ZiS AT Gun, SU-76, SU-85, and ISU-152): Not sure why give anti-tank units a ability to track infantry units considering their job to destroy tanks. I can see this being relatively useful as it does allow you to be aware of those pesky fausts and panzerschrecks but it is still limited. A low priority however as it ain't completely limited.

Suggestion; Veteran crews can detect specific armoured noises allowing them to spot enemy tanks within 100+ radius on the mini-map. It ain't a passive to be clear. Basically this allows anti-tank troops and tanks prepare in enemy in enemy attacks. This is rather huge as you can see where the enemy is planning to come from and prepare the appropriate response. This extends to helping out both SU variants immensely as they can avoid being flanked and destroyed by blitzing German tanks.

Secure Mode (Only for both T-34s variants, KV-1, KV-2, KV-8, IS-2, and M4C Sherman); Being one of those weird abilities on tanks besides the T-70 which is rather great on. Again these are one of those that can and are useful but limited especially compared to OST Blitz for their medium and heavy tanks.

Suggestion(s) Part 1 (For T-34s variants and M4C Sherman); Simple really. Replace Secure Mode with Radio Net. This greatly benefits T-34-76s as they become much more effective in numbers as they are cheap in fuel to buy and Veterancy already increases their rate of fire. (This really extends to all Soviet mediums as that they already have good rate of fire with veterancy.) Basically winning through fire power and sheer volume of shots. This would make up for the low penetration of T-34-76s mainly. For the other medium tanks (T-34-85 and M4C Sherman) this would make packs of them extremely potent and dangerous to even Panthers or King Tigers frontally. The increase of mobility will also boast them significantly as well allowing more flanks and hit & run tactics to be employed. Infantry and other medium tanks (or any for that matter) of Axis will be scared witless if facing two. This ain't imbalanced as it seems due to the fact Axis tanks generally have better veterancy bonuses, AT guns, and abilities. (TWP, Blitz, Smoke, etc.) Of course Axis do have better handheld anti-tank weaponry. Lastly is that they won't stand taking damage well either considering they are still low armour-medium tanks.

Part 2! (For the Heavies; IS-2, KV-1, KV-2, and KV-8)
In all honestly I am not quite sure what do in the case of these heavy tanks as secure mode is not half bad due to heavy armour and high hp. One thing I can think of is with Veterancy 1 is reducing the damage taken to take 1 extra shot for all heavies. IS-2 is uncertain but for KV-1, KV-2, and KV-8 it would be a great buff for tanking those hits and becoming sponges for the squishier Soviet tanks and infantry. Besides that I don't know.

TL;DR
Molotov's: Deal damage over time on initial impact for 20+ hp over around five seconds or so. This could be replaced of simply doing a flat damage on impact. OR/AND slow down units affected by the flames for a few seconds.

DShK AP Rounds: Simply cope and paste MG42 Incendiary Rounds.

Tracking: Change into detecting enemy tanks to better prepare for enemy vehicle threats.

Secure Mode: Keep on T-70 due to being a light tank/ harasser.

Replace with Radio Net for all Soviet medium tanks meaning packs of them or even two will be threatening to most tanks on the field due to rate of fire and mobility.

For heavy tanks replace with being able to tank (pun intended!) one more shot. Extends all KV variants to become more effective as damage sponges as well IS-2. Might be too good for IS-2 but considering Axis high penetration weapons already...


In Conclusion: Hope you gents enjoyed the read and hopefully agreed with these changes! I do encourage for those to throw in their own idea as it could be the best suggestion in the world. Feel free to also mock changes that you feel are completely crazy!

Note: I was going to make it include OST changes but it would simply make this page even longer so I decided to split it up into two parts. One for Soviet and one for OST.

Will be judging you harshly Cookie haha looking forward to this later tonight.

One thing I am noticing is lack of grenades or weapon racks. Was this merely of a no brainer for USF or do you feel they are merely unnecessary? Besides relying on Commander weapons of course. One last thing is do you truly feel other USF armour is pointless? Scott, Sherman, etc. (besides M10)