Profile of Alexzandvar

Didnt they nerf the DPS of the Assault Engineers on the first post WFA patch?

Yes, you used to see tons of Ass Gren spam before they were moved to 280 MP and have their close range DPS heavily nerfed. They are also much more fragile since the changes to armor/received accuracy.

Thats kind of my point. The strength of OKW is elite units and elite vet. They pay for this with reduced fuel and muni income.

If they dont need an abudance of muni NOR an abundance of fuel to compete then its not much of a punishment. That would be like giving USF a fuel penalty and making all their teching Free. That wouldnt be much of a penalty.

OKW has no reason to really use Muni once Shreks are acquired. And due to Shreks/Obers dont really need armor either. Their manpower is also not penalized.

So you get the current Meta. Kill everything MP blob with only the required 270 Muni and the rest turned into fuel.

OKW would still retain all their power but would have to CHOSE what to get. They couldnt have their cake and eat it too. If they want Shreks FINE get em! No AI though so you better get a Luchs or FlakHT. And if you lose those your in trouble so Panther may not be a no brainer anymore either. Cant have Shreks and Crutch on Obers for AI anymore!

Alternatively no shreks so you better get a Puma/JP4/Rak (that needs a buff) and use the Muni for your AI. So go ahead get that Panther but if you lose it your SCREWED!

OH I WANT BOTH!? Well let me convert fuel to muni!

See I just made OKW interesting and not mindless. This was how it was before the Muni increase when I loved to play OKW.

The thing is, this is already the case. Losing tanks/vehicles as OKW is extremely costly and can often easily lose you the game. The problem with OKW is that they have nothing to spend all their MP on, ever wonder why you see nothing but infantry blobs? Because when you have normally priced vehicles but a huge fuel penalty your normally going to save for a game winner, not just something that only slightly tips the balance.

Tell me, if you are playing as soviets and only had 33% fuel income, wouldn't you take every T34 loss hard? Wouldn't you instead of getting mediums and other easily killed fuel requiring units just save for something like an IS2 and spam cons and shocks to stall?

Iv said it before and said it again, reduce the fuel price of OKW vehicles but increase the amount of MP they cost! That way it encourages OKW players to blob less and spend MP on vehicles, which are still critical, but easier to get out onto the field. It will remain hard to replace losses as while the tank is out and doing work your still suffering from the reduced MP income that comes with having a large amount of consumed pop cap.

Even if you put the Chi-Nu in I would love to see how fun it would be to play a faction were my heaviest tank is the equivalent of the worst medium in the game.

I do. Yet I see 3x Shreks every single game. And the DPS of the LMG32 and the fact it doesnt drop out of DPS until the last model is killed is powerful.

Also it adds a tactical choice and a reason for Convert Fuel to Muni to exist. As it stands its buy Shreks negate fuel penalty...

A perfect example of relying on this is when people used to go with PFuse who have recieved no nerf. But once people caught on to how strong Obers are it fell out of favor.

If 180 turns out to be too much then tone it down. But it shouldnt cost as little as ABs upgrade.

Why not just remove it then? I mean if you make it 180 munitions you better make it so it never drops and make the squad a lot more durable since I think you are failing to recognize how much munitions that is for a resource starved faction. Your much more likely to see more people spaming volks rather than putting MP into Obers.

I would be fine with a price reduction for Obers in return for them losing the LMG all together and gaining a squad member.

OKW is also a heavily infantry based faction as well most the time. Trust me it isn't as easy to kill infantry as allies as you think. And their tanks might not be tigers, but they would be cheap and plentiful if they aren't strong. Try to ignore them and you would get overrun just as you would against any allied player using shermans and t34s

Japanese tanks were neither cheap nor plentiful, Japan was in the same dire situation as Germany was in late 44 due to fuel shortages. It's not that their tanks aren't tigers, it's that they are worse than literally every single medium tank currently in the game except the Command Panzer IV.

And I think almost every one can agree OKW isn't a good example of smart faction design.