I think Relic can handle the heat perfectly
What perplexes me is why people think act like that and then complain how Relic doesn't listen to the Community
I just meant that acting like the COH2 community is worse than any other online community is quite silly considering the internet is the internet.
Relic does listen, they problem they have is acting on what they hear. We know multiple developers read this very forum and care about what people have to say, but the giant gaps between patches and the lack of bug fixing makes it hard to believe that they are sincere when they comment on taking peoples suggestions and advice into account. |
First and foremost, I'm realist.
That means I praise or criticize them when they deserve it and also I realize that whatever they will do, people will bitch, because thats what people did through the history of coh2.
No new maps?
People bitch.
New maps?
People bitch.
No commanders?
People bitch.
New commanders?
People bitch.
Free commanders?
People bitch.
Paid commanders?
People bitch.
No balance patch?
People bitch.
Balance patch comes?
People are happy until they see notes, then bitch.
And so on.
This describes every game community ever. If Relic can't handle the heat they shouldn't be in the business of making video games. |
Point is, they are insane killing machine when used right.
Yes they put out a large amount DPS at close range and they can clear squads out of buildings easily. That's their strength, if you use them right they will preform well, If you don't they will drain your MP like nuts.
Keeping a sturm squad or two with your volks help significantly improve their ability to fight. |
Come on, in my last 2v2 I had 32kills with single SP squad.
I guess you didn't read my post were I said they were still a good unit. |
Well, osttruppen are able to beat conscripts.
In cover, assuming both are at max range. And at max range Oustruppen with their ROF buff actually beat out Volks. Volks are better than oustruppen at close range.
I don't see how you could argue volks are "better" starting game infantry than allies have, as said earlier you have to vet up before you can ever have 1 volks take on a single con squad. |
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But Volks are the worst starting baseline infantry unit, that's how they are designed. The whole point is that they are good in numbers and have good scaling.
The reason why most people who suggested that they remove volks shrek also suggest they get an AI upgrade, because what's the point of building them if they can only plink away with their shitty Kars? |
Last time I checked, Stuka zu Fuss was axis unit.
The Stuka is an excellent (If slow to vet and fire) unit, but it's basically all OKW has in the area of indirect fire. Ostheer has the mortar and mortar HT and that's it. The LefH is garbage.
Allies have a much wider selection, even the 152 Howitzer preforms well against entrenched axis players. |
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Forward retreat FHQ that can repair vehicles and reinforce infantry+flame barrage on normal mortars?
Come on.
None of these two is even remotely close to being balanced.
I'm sure a FHQ will be a big problem for allies when they have the best indirect in the game, yeah obviously there would need to be some tweaks (reduce armor on Pgrens, builds can only repair not reinforce) to it but the doctrine could work and it would be a nice olive branch to Ostheer players. |
Opinions, I guess.
Personally I think removing a core gameplay mechanic in favour of a near-endless stream of MP is a really, really bad idea. I dislike Industry and NOSB from a design standpoint.
Urban Assault is fine, once balanced. Like you say, their armour can be tweaked.
I wonder if we will ever see them.
Not One Step Back would be just very vulnerable to enemy armor. Yeah it's not the best idea out their but who doesn't want to have some awesome Commissars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb6cSEI1FLk
Glory to the first man that dies! |
They were never properly balanced (for example, upgraded Urban Assault P-Grens have more armour than most light vehicles) and in the case of NOSB, very poorly designed. If you think the Ostheer have a poor early game now, try going up against endless Con and Maxim spam.
That commander is horrible; it should never be released.
You know you could just tone down the Urban Pgren's armor and I think the inability to retreat is a fairly big handicap. |
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