you actually cant be serious right now. pre-nerf obers were just absolutely disgusting, being able to directly attack machine guns and win. vetted up obers are the best long range unit in the game, and vet 4 will hands down beat any infantry unit thanks to their suppression. as with any 4 man unit, keep in mind explosive threats, keep your models spread out, retreat if their health gets low so you dont get gibbed my a random mortar or something.
also dont people always talk about the infamous okw manpower float? if you actually micro obers well they bleed relatively little compared to how much damage they dish out thanks to the fact theyre long ranged infantry
You know that there were several ober nerfs right..?? the one every on talk about was when before all lmg got adjusted and then after that they were fine but they still got another dmg nerf wich made them useless