Have fun building wurframen as your first vehicle unit MVGame. I hope you do that if we meet online and are opponents.
That's true. It very rarely ever happens anyone builds a panzerwefer as the first vehicle, but you very very often see Katusha being built as the first vehicle. |
Pwerfer also got lower range then katy, yet it have 160hp.
That's why it's UP and it should have more hp
Stuka is simply too durable, unless a tank is sitting on it, you can save it most of the time.
It also have vastly superior barrage to both of them for merely 15 more fuel.
And to the guy trying to say "its more expensive", you can reliably get it in 9th minute, have fun getting katy or pwerfer before 11-14min mark.
It's not only 15 more it's almost double with the lower fuel income.
You can't compare and say it comes at that mins since OKW has a totally different design. you choose your teching according to the game.
You skip ur healing/possible forward HQ for getting a fast stuka or if you need to get healing after, then you will have access to your panzer HQ and its units much later (if you ever can build it cause in many cases you are forced to get a JP or wait for a callin JP or Panther command etc). Sov and OKW have different faction design, you can't simply compare them like that.
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Valid point, I don't think the werfer or katyusha should get 320 health. They are just fine with 160. If anything 200 max. The werfer isn't that great, similar to the FHT the teching requirements make this thing as rare as a unicorn.
Also stuka has a lower range than katusha which makes sense why it has higher HP |
Same health, armor, and mobility as the Stuka, more accurate at medium range, very accurate at close range. Fires more rockets.
and before you ask, I think the Katyusha needs more health and better mobility and better accuracy at farther rangers.
Why Katusha or Panzerwerfer should have the same health or mobility as stuka, where stuka's fuel cost is almost twice more than them (considering the lower fuel income percentage of OKW)! that could be valid for panzerwerfer if it was supposed to be used as an assault-gun on the front line! ;P but it is a mobile arty and is supposed to be used at range. |
Yes, if you are vastly more skilled than your opponent, then you can defeat him regardless of the tactics he chooses. We knew that. Thank you.
Jesulin beat some Obers once, holy crap guys, I suppose that means they are not overpowered either.
NO FACTION like SOVIET has the counter for everything.
You just have to be smart and pick the right units, according to the game, at the right time. However, there are a lot Ost, OKW, USF suffer cause they just don't have counter for them because of the poor design. That is why Soviet is unquestionably the strongest faction in the game. |
one question. i just want to know. do you guys think allies blobs are as much of a problem as axis blob?
yes, because if you are a good allies player, your opponent blobing means his defeat.
Also, early and mid game are very infantry based where a mighty rifleblob (which can be deadly with BAR for instance) can be a serious problem for axis (specially in close combat maps).
Just remember, as axis when you blob there is always the risk of all ur army blowing up with a demo charge, but as allies you don't need to worry as much cause axis doesn't even have demos (that's just an example), which makes the blober's life much easier.
When I play allies, I would seriously love to see my opponent blobing, cause I punish him for blobbing which results to my win. |
Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why there is still 90% axis and 10% allies in automatch?
Logic is absent there. If werfer is crap, why iPhone 7 is not released yet?!!!
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i guess you mean b4 when you say by far superior indirect fire and i agree about demo, but what other much stronger support weapons?
soviet just simply does not have an AOE suppression platform, M2HB is nice, needs support like HMG42.
what support weapons? maxim, 50cal., mortars, AT guns (Ost pak40 is good but OKW's rocketen is garbage), etc. and not only B4 btw!Katusha is great for its price and punishes blob hard, priest is great against buildings and even ML20 is devastating against building and if only one shot lands it can kill a whole army (specially because of this stupid mechanics where all ur troops gather in one small point sometimes, ... |
putting mgs in building is wrong most times, anyways. even if it's the mighty Maxim!  |
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Another thing is that allies have better counter against blobs such as much stronger support weapons, (by far) superior indirect fire, and demos. whereas axis doesn't.
So, the main solution (specially as axis) is to veto some maps. Some maps are extremely hard to play against blobing people, even if they have much lower skills. Maps like Hur. forest, trois pont, semos. etc. basically close combat and chock point maps.
That's one reason why I like winter maps cause my opponent's blob gets stuck in snow and long-range combat and cover stands out. |
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