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I've had a quick discussion with Romeo and we've come to a few ideas that might be considered okay as far as treating Panzershrek blobs.

As it stands a lot of people are complaining about Volksgrenadier Panzershrek blobs and Obersoldaten support.


I think part of the problem may be included in a lack of munitions sinks for the OKW, aside from Grenades, MG Upgrades, and artillery strikes, there isn't much else to sink munitions into.


I think a good change to implement onto Volksgrenadiers specifically may be to include an automatic weapons combat package.

In history, Volksgrenadier was just a move to economize personnel into regiments of 6-line infantry instead of the standard 9-line infantry. This was already very real for a lot of divisions.

To compensate, volksgrenadiers were given a higher volume of automatic weapons, LMG's, SMG's, and of course the new "wonder weapon" the STG-44.

So the idea, would be to give the OKW Volksgrenadiers a automatic weapons combat package that includes 1x LMG-34/42, 1x STG-44, and 2x MP-40's. Completely removing the KAR-98k from their inventory, locking out panzershreks, and giving them coats for cold immunity.


Perhaps this combat package can also give them a couple grenade options, although I'm just slinging ideas.



This would allow Volksgrenadiers to be less reliant on Obersoldaten and Sturmpioneers, while also providing an excellent and viable munitions sink aside from more panzershreks.

Consider light vehicles though. If a puma makes it to a katyusha, it will destroy it in one shot plus a burst from the coaxial MG. It has a decent chance of escaping unpunished since the allies have little time to react. If a stuart makes it to a stuka, it will have to shoot it four times, I think? Someone should correct me if I'm wrong. It's definitely a lot more than one time. This gives axis supporting units a lot more time to react. The stuka may or may not survive, the stuart almost certainly won't.

That may just be RNG playing against you, as I've had to take at least 2-shots to kill a Katyusha with a Puma or up to three (near misses included)


Also Stukas are very very vulnerable to counter battery barrages and surprisingly, very vulnerable to PTRS'. (Or so I've noticed)

Also are you just calculating the Stuarts base cannon damage, or are you including its alternate firing modes that give it more of a punch while disabling the oppositions vehicles. Stuarts aren't vehicle hunters, they are just anti-light vehicle, anti-infantry and most importantly, mechanized support.


They are kind of designed to be used in conjunction with other units. Hence why a Stuart + Captain would be a legitimate threat to even a panther if well micro'd



But that's not what this thread is about, this thread is about the Stuka and Veterancy, something I think Relic should really look into.

The priest has similar durability to the stuka but horrible mobility.

Yes but it also has incredible range and sits often very safe deep behind Allied lines, The Stuka, not as much.


Also economically the Stuka has far more opportunity cost than the Priest does. Especially since OKW cannot build caches to modify income and to convert comes at a great cost of whatever resource is being converted.

I think the stuka needs a health reduction. I believe that would make it vet up faster if my understanding of the vet system is correct. If not, it should have its vet requirements reduced and changed so it gets the incendiary ability earlier.

I have honestly never seen it in-game, only on replays and streams.

Nice post Sierra!

I don't necessarily see how reducing the unit's HP would increase its vet gain. The problem is that it doesn't gain a lot of exp from killing infantry and team weapons and its exp-milestones are set very high.

As far as I've noticed, having units attack vehicles seems to be the exp fast-track. Hell I had a 222 kill two M3 scout cars with penals the other day and it got instant Vet-2.


Also thanks!

For most team weapons and artillery pieces, their alternate fire modes are locked by Vet-1 and don't always cost so much in munitions. But this is not the case with the Stuka zu Fuss, instead it's alternate fire mode of Incendiary Rocket Barrage is locked behind a Vet-4 rank that it may never see in an entire game, and still costs a whopping 100 munitions, which is already difficult enough to achieve for a hard pressed OKW player. (Think lots of grenades and panzershreks and mines)


I think that for the alternate fire mode to be justifiably locked behind Vet-4, that it should be a bit more accessible and attainable than it is currently.


Furthermore I daresay that it opens up far more options for the OKW player to eliminate blobs of Allied infantry and artillery/ATG's as well as garrisoned units, which currently they are sorely lacking.

So please take this into consideration as currently I would go as far as to assume that most OKW players don't even know that there is an Incendiary Barrage option due to how exceedingly rare it is that the Stuka zu Fuss would ever reach Vet-2 or Vet-3, let alone Vet-4.