Profile of Rollo

both obers and falls are underpowered.
obers just need their damamge back lmg back to 8 and stg44 back to 9
for falls
Fallschrimjagers are both annoyance and very underwhelming unit.On one hand i have been completely annoyed how they spawn out of building and wreck shit,and after that they are quite shitty in combat compared to other units by significant margin.

Proposed redesign:-
1) make them 400 mp from 420 mp ( mot much of a difference),give them carbines and make fg42 a separate upgrade ( deals with the spawning issue) or let them paradrop.

2) a)make them reinforce on like voch airborne ( survivability) with 50 muni fg42 upgrade with very little fg42 dps buff or make them have more survivable by increasing either armor health or lowering received accuracy.
Or
b) keep them glass canon...but make f42 75 muni and major dps bufff.


and thompson paratroopers also need some kind of fix.in before commandos arrive.

I agree that they are underperforming for the 440mp cost and the building spawn is stupid, but reducing the MP and making the fg42 an upgrade would not fix the wiping.

Stuka zu fuss wipes all crew weapon which are in line.

Standing in the middle of a katy/stuka barrage is a bit different from losing a whole squad to a stray scott or mortar round.

KT is pure wipe machine even vs Cons (TA also).

KT/ISU is irrelevant, we are talking about low cost units (81mm, 120mm scott) wiping full health vet 440 mp squads here. OKW suffer the most in this respect even more that Ost when you consider

A: the whole faction relies on unit preservation and keeping veterancy

B: Falls/Obers are a lot more expensive to replace than grenadiers.

Losing a gren/con squad is an annoyance, losing a vet fall squad like in the OP can often cost you the game.

GrW34 wipes all the time.

Provide a replay of a full health, vet three shock/airborne squad running into a GrW34 or Leig shell and I will agree with you.

It's not one-sided problem which affects only Axis.

It is when you consider OKW elite infantry is pegged in four man squads, larger squads have more survivability from stray BS squad wipes

No, adjust Falls and Obers MP cost and fix squad spacing in general and you'll be fine.

I doubt Relic will ever fix spacing it's been two years. This is why I suggested larger squads, I agree with the MP reduction though especially when it comes to obers.

We are talking about the new patch, right? I quite clearly said "major tier"

Last time I checked the E8 is now in the major tier

E8 currently has the role of a generalist tank, in a tier that already has a good generalist for 30 fu cheaper and a specialist TD for 15 fu less. Its extra armor gives it the chance to RNG bounce, but not be a reliable way to tank damage.

The E8 should either be cheaper, or should get its armor traded for HP IMO.

The E8 has the role of an upgunned sherman, it completely wipes the floor with the Ost and OKW PIV's thanks to the added armour and penetration which the regular sherman struggles to do. Nothing to do with rng here, it does that quite consistently.

It was already overperfoming for the cost which is why it was upped in price shortly after WFA release. Go read the old threads if you struggle to understand why making the E8 even cheaper is a bad idea.

Sometimes reading threads like these makes me wonder if some of these "strategists" actually play the game

People build E8s when they have major tier unlocked?

Are you sure you play Axis? 10 min sherman into E8 spam has been the norm on urban maps for a while now.

I can't remember the time I last played against a USF player that did anything else on semois.

Demos need to stay in the game for Brit commandos. Give Ost/Okw the goliath to compensate.

The brummbar does worse than a scott for double the price, it is shit. Shoots helium balloon shells that barely ever kill more than 2 models per shot. Only good thing about the brummbar is its armor. Everything else, its price, availability, and damage output are all trash.

Watch out, you will have USF fanboys outcry how much better the brumbar is thanks to its armour and survivability making it soooooo much better unlike paper American vehicles.