Profile of IpKaiFung

You say many games yet only reference SC2, and you say so many professional gamers yet only reference State of the Game. A few players of one game doesn't sound like much to me.

SoTG does have a varied cast on from week to week, they are generally the most vocal players in the community however I do agree that it just limiting my references to just SC2 and a small selection of players doesn't give my argument much weight. It only gives you a small picture of how the overall player base is feeling. Much like a small clique of people posting feedback in a private forum.

Professional games and gamers only make up a small part of a game's player base too, however they don't play these games at a high level purely because it's well balanced or deep. They play it because they enjoy playing it, the feeling of working with your friends to take down an enemy team in a moba, parrying chun li's super with no health left and winning your match, dropping off some marines to harass a mineral line while engaging the main army, performing an amazing four way flank on a wehr position and routing the player.

Balance and depth do help but feeling like a bad ass while playing the game trumps all those elements any day. When you make a game when anyone at any level can enjoy you will naturally see professional gamers emerge should the general mentality of that game's community allow for it.

Huh? My assumption that discussions are had between developers and competitive players is taken from the knowledge that developers base balance decisions on competitive games. There's lots of evidence that that is the case. Discussions just seem like the next logical step in a process that is already occurring.

Watch a show like state of the game, where top players discuss the happenings of the SC2 scene.

There is something I've noticed on that show and there is never any mention of any communication with a developer.

Why is that important? It's important because there are no discussions.

Sometimes it's best for the developer to do what they feel is right for the game they have made. Design by committee doesn't work and the best games are the ones that have a very strong designer at the helm.

Take Shigeru Miyamoto, he is second to no one. He's sold more software than any other developer in the world and is infamous for canning years of work if he alone doesn't find the game fun to play.

I strongly believe the games that we find fun to play are a result of this thinking amongst the developers.

DoW2. Same thing. GR was poison. Good riddance and three cheers for Coh2.org!

If you have further personal barbs, take them to PM, and stop derailing.

Any ideas why you were banned from GR.org then? Their moderation is pretty lenient by all accounts.

That's why private discussions with hand-picked top players are the best way for a developer to receive balance feedback. Look at SC2, LoL, Dota 2, etc.

Got any proof? I've seen plenty of top level players not happy about the state of their respective game at times, it leads me to believe their is no weight in your claim.

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