Pack Howie Airdrop

Jump back to quoted post16 Feb 2019, 21:55 PMLoopDloop

+1

I don't like raid because it feels really superfluous. You can just decrew vehicles to cap because realistically the only time you'll be able to cap with raid is when there's no contact. Any AT and you have to run away, and any infantry with snares you also have to run away. I guess if his army is only jaegers you can cap stuff with it. The sight range bonus is nice, but the commander is already so muni heavy and pathfinders have more than enough sight range already. I'd much rather see it replaced with suply drops.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2019, 02:21 AMJae For Jett

Do this many people really dislike raid? Early m20s get free reign to cap 3-4 points in the duration, and the ability can later be used for comically fast back capping or, if you have multiple light vehicles, mass capping of the map. It makes a single light vehicle have the capping power of 3 squads, and that just really helps for keeping up map pressure.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2019, 04:01 AMLoopDloop

Is the capping significantly faster? Tbh I don't think I've ever even used the ability because I'd rather have another BAR or throw another nade.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2019, 04:23 AMJae For Jett

I think it was set to 250% cap speed (it was somewhere between 2-3x). It's insanely fast.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2019, 21:16 PMFlyingsmonster

I have to say, after continuing to play Recon Support post the nerfs, I don't mind not having the AT gun in the airdrop, and the pack howitzer is nice. That said, I still don't think the nerfs are deserved since I do still see my pack howie get de-crewed instantly fairly often, then again I am crewing them with REs which drop like flies no matter what.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2019, 21:22 PMLago

Have you tried crewing them with the Support Paras? Para-crewed team weapons can reinforce from Pathfinder beacons.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2019, 21:28 PMFlyingsmonster

Honestly, that's just too much of a manpower sink for me, since they cost 30mp to re-enforce making it a really expensive pack howie, especially with how prone to wiping it is now. RE are only 20mp to re-enforce a pack howie, and since it's behind my lines most of the time it can stay reasonably safe. That said, the moment it's flanked by a rifle nade, or any other sort of arty / nade it will be wiped very quickly. Also, airborne take forever to re-enforce too.

I never really use beacon re-enforce anyways, I usually have an ambulance out by the time the airdrop is ready to be called in and I'll just call it in next to my ambulance to re-enforce.

Jump back to quoted post16 Feb 2019, 16:34 PMLago

Without the muni cost and Pack Howie in the airdrop, you'd be able to get AT Paras pretty cheap. And AT Paras are really good.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2019, 02:21 AMJae For Jett

Do this many people really dislike raid? Early m20s get free reign to cap 3-4 points in the duration, and the ability can later be used for comically fast back capping or, if you have multiple light vehicles, mass capping of the map. It makes a single light vehicle have the capping power of 3 squads, and that just really helps for keeping up map pressure.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 18:33 PMEtherealDragon

I've always enjoyed Pak Howie and it's nice to be able to use it in LT builds now. I'd feel better if they upped the Greyhound's AT damage back to 60 to facilitate Capt-less builds to make full use of the Howie drop. Now that AT gun isn't so available to the commander it's be more usable if Greyhound didn't struggle so hard vs. lowly 222s.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 19:11 PMLago

That's what the Stuart's for.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 19:41 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

Stuart + Greyhound is a lot of fuel, but maybe it could work, I'll see if I can try it.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 19:11 PMLago

That's what the Stuart's for.