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FK9DD
14 Jan 2019, 05:39 AM
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usfusfPathfinders
Pros
-2 scoped rifles with crits
-camouflage
-great sight
-beacon can help detect Raketenwerfer but can't uncover it
-2 carbines good for close range
Cons
-2 carbines can't hit a shit at long range
-scopes can't hit a shit at close range
-low acc from vets
-low acc for scopes(0.6~)
-para reinfors from beacon suck

manpower 290/30

okwokwJaeger inf
Pros
-camouflage with first strike bonus
-sprint
-1 scoped rifle witch great acc(long range 0.9 close range 1.2 fucking 120% acc) and crit chance
-scoped rifle doesn't give shit about cover
-great sight
-can mine points
-3 grens kars,good at long/mid range(actually not terrible at close)
-have meds(meh but still)
-spawn from buildings

Cons
-must be upgraded
-high vet requirements(doing ton of damage so not realy high for them)
that's it about cons i think lol

manpower 250/31


so what the fuck is this,they been way better than pathfinders and good as unit overall before patch,now they just fucking insane

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Baba
14 Jan 2019, 05:50 AM
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why did you have to open a new thread for this? there have been 20 others already. its old news, just play okw and climb to rank 1
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Jae For Jett
14 Jan 2019, 06:34 AM
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So a few things:

First and foremost, pathfinders aren't that good. The changes were not intended to fix pathfinders and make them viable. They were a last minute, emergency change to make them suck less. Our changes to JLI, however, WERE intended to make them viable, so it should be no surprise that they seem much better (though of course they shouldnt be THAT much better) in comparison to pathfinders. It's like comparing other HMGs to a maxim; of course the other HMGs are better. So yeah, of course JLI are better.

Secondly, those accuracy stats are just straight up wrong.

Third, the pathfinder carbines that "cant hit shit at long range," are the paratrooper/ranger carbines. You know, the carbines that have a higher max range DPS than volks' kars, or riflemen garands.

Finally, pathfinders have easy access to further weapon upgrades (beyond the snipers, that is).

Edit: there are also target size differences.
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Aarotron
14 Jan 2019, 06:58 AM
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yay another jäger thread
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FK9DD
14 Jan 2019, 07:39 AM
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1.jaegerd always been better than pathfinders

2.their vet buffs useless for bars

3.they have chance to drop bar for every model died

4.again carbines suck without dps vets
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ElSlayer
14 Jan 2019, 07:47 AM
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Yet IMO impact of Pathfinders rework on USF faction is higher/better than JLI on OKW faction.
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mortiferum
21 Jan 2019, 08:12 AM
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YAY YOU CANT USE SEARCH BUTTON )))))
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Stug life
21 Jan 2019, 12:01 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Jan 2019, 07:39 AMFK9DD
1.jaegerd always been better than pathfinders

2.their vet buffs useless for bars

3.they have chance to drop bar for every model died

4.again carbines suck without dps vets

Is spreading lies and disagreeing with in game stats banble offense ? Cause if it’s not it should be cause FUCKING HELL PEOPLE ARE JUST SPAMMING SHIT WRITING WATHEVER THEY LIKE
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Stug life
21 Jan 2019, 12:06 PM
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Btw great format :
Pros
They have guns
They have legs
They have brain
Cons
They are a bad unit
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Stug life
21 Jan 2019, 12:14 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/DAUKoYw








tell me lies tell me lies tell me sweet little lies
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Stug life
21 Jan 2019, 12:17 PM
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mods should wake up and ban this shit together with the other idiot on the other thread saying that making lowering the threshold of the critical to pathfinder lvl (40-50%) would not be enough cause he IS FUCKING BIASED
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ZombiFrancis
21 Jan 2019, 16:27 PM
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...Then are you being ironic by posting dps graphs comparing weapons that have snipe criticals with weapons that don't?
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Stug life
21 Jan 2019, 16:39 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jan 2019, 16:27 PMZombiFrancis
...Then are you being ironic by posting dps graphs comparing weapons that have snipe criticals with weapons that don't?
1 they still deal damage critcal or not
2 i posted about the carbine and kar too, i put the sniper too just to show that in dps they easily beat JLI

i already gave my opinion for the Nerf in another thread making them more similar to pathfinder, but not with this lvl of bias/misinformation
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ZombiFrancis
21 Jan 2019, 17:14 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jan 2019, 16:39 PMStug life
1 they still deal damage critcal or not
2 i posted about the carbine and kar too, i put the sniper too just to show that in dps they easily beat JLI


They do and you did, but you do recognize that it's completely meaningless to calculate how much damage they're dealing to entities being sniped? It doesn't help reduce any confusion.
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Stug life
21 Jan 2019, 20:32 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jan 2019, 17:14 PMZombiFrancis


They do and you did, but you do recognize that it's completely meaningless to calculate how much damage they're dealing to entities being sniped? It doesn't help reduce any confusion.
the sniper rifle still work to deal damage before the crit threshold u know that ?
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ZombiFrancis
21 Jan 2019, 20:54 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jan 2019, 20:32 PMStug life
the sniper rifle still work to deal damage before the crit threshold u know that ?


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FK9DD
23 Jan 2019, 06:12 AM
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do ingame test first,then post shit here pls
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Antemurale
23 Jan 2019, 09:46 AM
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This thread derailed quite spectacularly.

If you have more to say on JLI, please refer to "How would you like the JLI to be nerfed?"

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