M2 HMG .50 Cal

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 05:57 AMGbpirate

Uh. You get higher damage and a quicker setup time.

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 04:31 AMCODGUY

I notice this MG is locked behind the LT tech tree and that it is significantly more expensive than the HMG42. So, question: what am I getting out of this unit that makes it better than the HMG42 since it's 1 more on the pop count and 20 MP more than its Wehrmacht counterpart? Anyone? Anyone?

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 04:31 AMCODGUY

I notice this MG is locked behind the LT tech tree and that it is significantly more expensive than the HMG42. So, question: what am I getting out of this unit that makes it better than the HMG42 since it's 1 more on the pop count and 20 MP more than its Wehrmacht counterpart? Anyone? Anyone?

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 14:47 PMLago

The ability to build it in the first place.



Comparing the .50 cal and the MG42 directly doesn't work because they're not in the same faction: you'd never have to choose between them.

Units are priced relative to other units in the same faction, with the goal being build diversity.

If you want to compare USF and OST, you need to compare them as a whole. Individual unit comparisons break down because their circumstances aren't the same. A .50 cal fights different factions, comes out at a different timing and has different units supporting it.

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 16:32 PMmurky depths

It's worse than an MG42 for what you want an MG to do, but it's still a very good MG.

Yeah, it's not an optimal deal, and getting it from tier0 the way OKW does after an initial tech up would be cool, but something something fair and balance.

It is a very good MG tho, 2nd best of the stock HMGs IMO, and by a relatively wide margin.

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 17:28 PMCODGUY

So here is the deal then. There is nothing wrong with Wehrmacht having a better MG than the .50 cal, there is even nothing wrong with the MG being in the LT tier. There is something wrong with a clearly inferior unit costing more and taking up more pop. This is the kind of crap with these balance patches that make no sense at all.

Jump back to quoted post30 Oct 2018, 22:18 PMLago

Again, they're not priced on the same rules. The HMG42 is priced relative to other Ostheer units, the .50 cal is priced relative to other USF units. The two factions have different teching structures.

If you're comparing OST to USF, you need to compare the whole faction.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2018, 00:01 AMCODGUY

Name 1, just 1 Ostheer unit that is inferior to its Allied counterpart and yet more expensive.

Besides, USF as a faction is a complete mess compared to OSTheer. This may have something to do with the fact they have inferior units that cost more.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2018, 00:26 AMShadowLinkX37

Panzer 4 vs HE sherman

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2018, 00:56 AMCODGUY

LOL! Nope, Panzer 4 will 1v1 a Sherman M4A3 pretty easily and its shot is effective against both infantry and armor without having to manually switch between two different shots making it more versitile. It also enjoys better armor upgrades when vetted.

Try again.

Name 1, just 1 Ostheer unit that is inferior to its Allied counterpart and yet more expensive.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2018, 00:56 AMCODGUY

LOL! Nope, Panzer 4 will 1v1 a Sherman M4A3 pretty easily...
Try again.

Jump back to quoted post31 Oct 2018, 01:34 AMJae For Jett

And a .50 will easily 1v1 an mg42 due to the faster setup time