Any buddy have the stats on what putting a tank in hull down does to it's stats?
Hull Down Effects?
21 Sep 2013, 03:20 AM
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21 Sep 2013, 13:18 PM
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I'd like to know that, too.
I looked inside the game files but couldn't find anything.
I looked inside the game files but couldn't find anything.
21 Sep 2013, 14:01 PM
#3
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Oh, that was really good hidden, I think in the files there isn't a general "ability" but you have to look for every tank (they still get the same boni I think).
I will look it up again, wait a minute
I will look it up again, wait a minute
I play mostly 1v1 and my post are with 1v1 in mind.
21 Sep 2013, 14:21 PM
#4
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Ok, every german tank:
before the Patch (outdated):
After the new Patch!
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x2 sight radius modifier. (multiplication) Spottingscope
EDIT: The following are Firststrikeboni out of camo:
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If someone wants to look for himself search in the whole folder for: Ostwind Hulldown, and take "ostwind_flak_panzer_mp" , and search for "value".
From using it in a game I noticed a Ostwind can take a Zis headon with hulldown if he is in range^^
Another interesting note is that this boni don't affect the Ostwind as much as a P4 because of the reload modifier. The Ostwind shoots 6 times and then reloads, and only this reload is shorter. Other Tanks reload after every shot. Also the accuracy seems a bit useless on the Ostwind because of its huge aoe.
before the Patch (outdated):
After the new Patch!
If I read it correctly, the new boni are:
Range: x1.25
Received damage: x0.75
Reload time: x0.8
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x2 sight radius modifier. (multiplication) Spottingscope
EDIT: The following are Firststrikeboni out of camo:
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If someone wants to look for himself search in the whole folder for: Ostwind Hulldown, and take "ostwind_flak_panzer_mp" , and search for "value".
From using it in a game I noticed a Ostwind can take a Zis headon with hulldown if he is in range^^
Another interesting note is that this boni don't affect the Ostwind as much as a P4 because of the reload modifier. The Ostwind shoots 6 times and then reloads, and only this reload is shorter. Other Tanks reload after every shot. Also the accuracy seems a bit useless on the Ostwind because of its huge aoe.
I play mostly 1v1 and my post are with 1v1 in mind.
21 Sep 2013, 15:18 PM
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HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLYYYY 37.5% damage reduction!
i see why i locked the middle of a map when i had 3 tanks hulled
also out of curiosity. does the bunker provides bonuses too??
i see why i locked the middle of a map when i had 3 tanks hulled
also out of curiosity. does the bunker provides bonuses too??
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21 Sep 2013, 16:20 PM
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Seriously? I had expected the boni to be much lower. This sounds ridiculous.
Especially all those offensive boni...
I really need to toy around with it a little.
Thanks!
Especially all those offensive boni...
I really need to toy around with it a little.
Thanks!
21 Sep 2013, 16:29 PM
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well in my ignorance i assume if the calculation is a simple multiplication then it is a big damage reduction. and no wonder i had the commander tank on hull down too. it also helped. i would recomend this to be used with the smoke commanders. so if your tank is getting out ranged. you pop smoke and retreat. and get a pak to avoid su sniping your tanks.
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21 Sep 2013, 17:28 PM
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Edited my first post about the last 3 modifiers. Sorry^^
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23 Sep 2013, 07:59 AM
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well, but hulldown works perfect for Panthers, all other tanks can be easily killed when in hulldown mode
23 Sep 2013, 10:52 AM
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Why that Barton? The Panther still gets outranged by Su85s, I don't see much diffrence to the other Tanks in Hulldown.
I play mostly 1v1 and my post are with 1v1 in mind.
23 Sep 2013, 16:01 PM
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Just noticed something while looking something else up:
Light vehicles (222, 251, didn't check all) seem to have a received damage modifier for this ability of 0.75, so it isn't as effective with them as with tanks.
And Soviet vehicles seem to get a received damage modifier of 3 for this ability. Now I don't know if you can actually use it on captured Soviet vehicles but they at least seem to have the ability to leave dug in state.
Either way, receiving triple damage because you are dug in doesn't make sense. A possible bug?
Light vehicles (222, 251, didn't check all) seem to have a received damage modifier for this ability of 0.75, so it isn't as effective with them as with tanks.
And Soviet vehicles seem to get a received damage modifier of 3 for this ability. Now I don't know if you can actually use it on captured Soviet vehicles but they at least seem to have the ability to leave dug in state.
Either way, receiving triple damage because you are dug in doesn't make sense. A possible bug?
23 Sep 2013, 16:28 PM
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I don think you can actually hull down light vehicles.
Not totally sure
Not totally sure
23 Sep 2013, 19:01 PM
#13
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^You are right, you can't hulldown light vehicles. (Or arty )
)
I play mostly 1v1 and my post are with 1v1 in mind.
23 Sep 2013, 19:19 PM
#14
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For trivia reasons it is still kinda interesting, I think 
Maybe they were considered but then they scrapped it because light vehicles need to be mobile anyways and it'd probably have taken a graphics designer to make the whole hulled down thing with sandbags flying everywhere when they are hit.
I still don't understand why the Soviet tanks have a received damage multiplier of 3, though. I guess they can't be hulled down anyways but why make them take additional damage should anyone ever manage to do it?
Maybe they were considered but then they scrapped it because light vehicles need to be mobile anyways and it'd probably have taken a graphics designer to make the whole hulled down thing with sandbags flying everywhere when they are hit.
I still don't understand why the Soviet tanks have a received damage multiplier of 3, though. I guess they can't be hulled down anyways but why make them take additional damage should anyone ever manage to do it?
25 Sep 2013, 09:12 AM
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So what are the modifiers of the reworked ability? Were the old ones replaced or just a few things changed?
I don't have time to unpack the files and check for myself at the moment but I still want to know
I don't have time to unpack the files and check for myself at the moment but I still want to know
27 Sep 2013, 13:56 PM
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If I read it correctly, the new boni are:
Range: x1.25
Received damage: x0.75
Reload time: x0.8
Range: x1.25
Received damage: x0.75
Reload time: x0.8
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