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Artigo
21 Jan 2018, 17:23 PM
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Hello all,

Trying to work out the logic here for random action syntax.

Essentially, I'm trying to give a 1% for an upgrade (or other action) to occur whenever this type of building is constructed. I've tried this layout with 'player_target_action'.

I assume check self refers to the actual object being created in this case.

However, I can't get the action to trigger no matter the set up here.

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SneakEye
21 Jan 2018, 18:11 PM
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You can set "owner_type" within the upgrade to "player" instead of using the "player_target_action".
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Artigo
22 Jan 2018, 16:28 PM
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Im not sure what I'm not doing correctly, but the upgrade is still not being granted correctly even when (in the requirement action) I only have the grant upgrade and have 'owner_type' set to player.

Do I need to have actions under the other action option?
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SneakEye
22 Jan 2018, 19:41 PM
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Can you post an image of the requirements from your requirement_action? And I suppose that you test with a chance higher then 1%?
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Artigo
23 Jan 2018, 00:53 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jan 2018, 19:41 PMSneakEye
Can you post an image of the requirements from your requirement_action? And I suppose that you test with a chance higher then 1%?


Sure



What Im trying to do is have a chance to grant this upgrade (which in turn grants a one time use ability) on action. Whenever the ability completes, it removes the upgrade from the player as to not allow reuse. This works fine, but granting the upgrade in this manner in the first place doesn't for whatever reason.
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SneakEye
23 Jan 2018, 08:56 AM
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You might can try to set "validate_all_sub_actions" to false. It has blocked some actions for me which did work just fine.

Can you confirm that you test with a chance higher then 1%?
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Artigo
24 Jan 2018, 14:11 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jan 2018, 08:56 AMSneakEye
You might can try to set "validate_all_sub_actions" to false. It has blocked some actions for me which did work just fine.

Can you confirm that you test with a chance higher then 1%?


I have 'validate_all_sub_actions' set to false and the 'owner_type' set to player. I tested it on weight 99 for the upgrade and weight 1 for the no upgrade. Still not showing up for some reason.

The ability IS set on the army and I have the correct structure set for the engineer.
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Lugie
24 Jan 2018, 14:50 PM
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Well, lets check all the basic stuff and then move onto more in-depth troubleshooting.

1. Check the upgrade itself doesn't have any requirements.*

2. Check the upgrade for who owns it, in your case, it should be the player. You shouldn't have to use a player action to add it.

3. Use a delay action to add the upgrade. I suggest a delay of 0.125. This is because you have the requirement set to make sure the upgrade is not present, however, the system could have already added the upgrade in advance, thus doing some fancy computer stuff to mess it up.

*Also, the upgrade you have might only work if you have the commander that enables that ability.
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Artigo
24 Jan 2018, 15:23 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Jan 2018, 14:50 PMLugie


3. Use a delay action to add the upgrade. I suggest a delay of 0.125. This is because you have the requirement set to make sure the upgrade is not present, however, the system could have already added the upgrade in advance, thus doing some fancy computer stuff to mess it up.

*Also, the upgrade you have might only work if you have the commander that enables that ability.


This is a good idea, I'll try this. I actually found when I was trying to remove the upgrade from the abilitiy on_end, it only worked WITH a delay.
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Artigo
25 Jan 2018, 02:37 AM
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No dice. Tested with weight=99 and 2 second delay

Perhaps I could try with putting the requirements on the upgrade itself, but that wouldn't prevent actually getting it.
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Artigo
27 Jan 2018, 16:42 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Jan 2018, 14:50 PMLugie


3. Use a delay action to add the upgrade. I suggest a delay of 0.125. This is because you have the requirement set to make sure the upgrade is not present, however, the system could have already added the upgrade in advance, thus doing some fancy computer stuff to mess it up.


Do requirement actions go before their requirements are checked?

For the life of me I cannot figure out what is causing this issue. It works as intended without the requirement action, but no combination of settings makes it work with requirements.
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Lugie
27 Jan 2018, 19:51 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Jan 2018, 16:42 PMArtigo


Do requirement actions go before their requirements are checked?


No, the requirements are usually checked before the action is executed. Otherwise it wouldn't be a very effective requirement action, eh?
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Artigo
27 Jan 2018, 21:27 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Jan 2018, 19:51 PMLugie


No, the requirements are usually checked before the action is executed. Otherwise it wouldn't be a very effective requirement action, eh?


Right, that's what I figured. I'm just grasping at straws trying to understand the logic behind this.
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Lugie
28 Jan 2018, 01:49 AM
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So, lets go back to the first point. What exactly are you trying to do? Give a small chance of adding a ability on construct, just the upgrade, both, wot?
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Artigo
28 Jan 2018, 03:28 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jan 2018, 01:49 AMLugie
So, lets go back to the first point. What exactly are you trying to do? Give a small chance of adding a ability on construct, just the upgrade, both, wot?


Correct, small chance of adding an ability on construct. The ability requires that upgrade, so granting the upgrade then gives the ability.
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Lugie
28 Jan 2018, 04:43 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jan 2018, 03:28 AMArtigo


The ability requires that upgrade, so granting the upgrade then gives the ability.


And here is where you went wrong. The upgrade does not grant the ability, it unlocks it. Unless you have the commander that actually adds that ability (If its a commander ability), then its not going to work at all. You have to add the ability through a, surprise surprise, add ability action.
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Artigo
28 Jan 2018, 17:24 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jan 2018, 04:43 AMLugie


And here is where you went wrong. The upgrade does not grant the ability, it unlocks it. Unless you have the commander that actually adds that ability (If its a commander ability), then its not going to work at all. You have to add the ability through a, surprise surprise, add ability action.


Actually it works fine like that as you can see here

https://www.coh2.org/replay/67536/test

Since the ability is set army-wide. For whatever reason it won't work whenever there is a requirement action before hand. I may have to try to rework it through to use the add ability instead.
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