Sdkfz 222 scout car and upgrade

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 15:48 PMpanzerjager2

Why in the world is that when you upgrade the scout car to the 20mm auto cannon, its piss poor anti infantry capability gets even worse ????

You would think that an upgrade costing 70 munitions will result in a nice advantage instead it has the unique situation of an upgrade putting you at a massive disadvtange vs infantry.

Its already really weak and apart from clown car hunting it serves zero purpose in the game.

Can anyone from RELIC answer this. A 20mm cannon is expected to SHRED infantry but as it stands it cant even kill a sniper squad.

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 15:53 PMKnoxxx

I dont know what you mean. 20mm rounds bounce off of me all the time....

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 16:56 PMBlovski

The Ostheer Scout Car's basic AI is actually pretty OK now. A pair of them can actually mangle conscript squads. I agree the upgun is problematic, if only because the big investment makes it no longer a serious threat to snipers or flamer engineers.

@Porygon... the PE AC was painful to play against. Would kill an engineer squad before you got a notification they were being attacked sometimes. Not to mention, T-70 is tier 3.

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 17:09 PMPorygon

saying T-70 is tier 3 is as bullshit as saying PE AC is tier 3, and PE AC isn't hard to deal with, maybe noobs can't

I don't see a problem if Ostheer AC work like PE AC, it is a glass cannon anyway, one single 30 mine then boom

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 17:35 PMBlovski

Eh, it's not too hard to deal with. It just didn't make for interesting play on account of the lethality closeup being insane. The point of the T-70 is T-3 comment (besides which, PE T3 tended to be quicker than Sov T3 is) is that the Ostheer scout car is T-2.

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 17:53 PMalcoholic

I do like them as they are and never had the feeling they were underperforming.

they are a serious threat to infantry without the upgrade considering the exeptional cheap cost of 80 manpower.

with the upgrade they can battle the feared t70, katyushas, and any other sovjet trucks.
on top of that they can damage tanks on rear armor.

the skf 221 /2 is the one vehicle i build every game (mostly 2 or even more).
it is the one vehicle that often leads my statistic in damage ration after a game.
it is the veclicle that i get to vet 3 the most.

i cant see anything beeing wrong with it.

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 17:45 PMPorygon

double standard, T-70 IS MORE lethal than PE AC
never miss, one shot one kill, neglect cover, can crush

See an AC in COH1? get into buildings or green cover and stall for more than a minute
See T70? RUN THE FUCK BACK or farewell your squad

not even mentioning Guards can A move and fuck up AC better than airborne and rangers

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 18:02 PMPorygon

good luck using AC fighting T70

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 17:53 PMalcoholic

I do like them as they are and never had the feeling they were underperforming.

they are a serious threat to infantry without the upgrade considering the exeptional cheap cost of 80 manpower.

with the upgrade they can battle the feared t70, katyushas, and any other sovjet trucks.
on top of that they can damage tanks on rear armor.

the skf 221 /2 is the one vehicle i build every game (mostly 2 or even more).
it is the one vehicle that often leads my statistic in damage ration after a game.
it is the veclicle that i get to vet 3 the most.

i cant see anything beeing wrong with it.

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2013, 19:28 PMTristan44

Stop saying soviets have tiers... they DO NOT HAVE TIERS!!!!!!