April 25th patch?

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 01:26 AMNano

I just played a 4v4 against you on hill 400 with 3xOKW.

On a map that small with so many OKW of course you are going to see crap tons of them. Your top side was just outplayed and we didn't lose many squads allowing us to go down and flank you and your buddy. The other hald of your team was just out played.

Don't know about the rest of your games though. Maybe give it more time.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 01:41 AMLoopDloop

Sure, our side got outplayed, and they were bad, awful even. But it got outplayed mostly by a bunch of blobbed up volks. Every game I played has been like that. Even when I invest in a .50 AND an m15 the blobs just run it over.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 02:02 AMNano

No very early on we whooped the Brit at top and the USF with him was slow to respond. He set up his Vikers, got flanked lost it and lost some of his other units then his USF buddy came in and got out numbered.

Mid to late game you were swarmed by Volks that is true, but that is because we took top with out much loss, I did see bottom seemed to be going either way; so we came down and flanked. It seemed to be all down hill from there.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 02:29 AMDyzfunction

I'm a mainly axis player and I'm having a very hard time winning any 4v4's since the patch. Maybe bad luck? GCS stats don't look good for axis either.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 01:12 AMLoopDloop

Might just be today, but it seems like volks blobs are a lot more potent now. I've played several teamgames today and everyone has just been wiping the floor with volks blobs. I've tried mgs, I've tried indirect, I've even made a fucking m15. Needless to say, all were ineffectual. Did they nijabuff axis last patch or something? Or is it just me?

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2017, 11:35 AMGarrett

Hey, we also played a game today, a 2v2. Well, the problem in our game was that you allowed us to have double ammunition so we could happily spam STGs. However, Volks are a very potent unit, which needs some changes. The veterancy should be changed maybe since they are very durable and also the flame nades should be taken into considerations. But when you speak about blob, you should not forget that OKW has no other infantry unit until late when the Flak HQ is up (or you get the overperforming Panzerfüsiliere).

Just in general, I feel more relaxed when playing OKW instead of Ost since your infantry (aka the Volks) are not as squishy as Ost infantry.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 10:47 AMAlphrum

blobbing is problem for all factions, its not just volks that are doing it and volks are no longer anti everything blobs, unlike USF and UKF blobs.

And after reading NANO's comment, guess it was nothing to do with blobbing, you just simply got outplayed.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 04:49 AMTaksin02

here is the problem

- replace flamenade with normal grenade
- if player target grenade to garrison building or emplacement unit will thrown flamenade

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 00:13 AMLoopDloop

If I'm not mistaken that's the game where we had a balance discussion afterward right?

Yeah but A) Stgs will be spammed anyway at only 60 muni (it was a blunder on our part, I think my teammate was out of his depth) and B) volks blobs really should be easily countered (easily as in not having to field suppression out the ass and covering each other, as I do now with stated LT build, or spamming rocket arty, which comes too late anyway and is doctrinal for brits and usf), since they are very easily made and won with. If it was that game, we did even manage to pin you guys to a medhq but blobs of volks combined with a rak pushed my M15 back each time, even with a .50 covering, which really shouldn't happen, since they're both dedicated suppression units.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 13:47 PMLoopDloop

No it was blobbing and if you're talking about zook/piat blobs you probably got some more playing to do. Those things suck.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 18:32 PMAlphrum

says the one losing to volk blobs lol

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2017, 15:34 PMPanzerGeneralForever

I haven't played OKW yet but I have played against them and with them and made two observations.
Volks are super strong with vet
50 cal can't seem to suppress anything in yellow cover

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 01:17 AMLoopDloop

Ok snarky know it all pro, how do you play against 20min+ volks blobs? Don't say rocket arty, because that's doctrinal, don't say mgs, because those can't even suppress vet5 volks before they get wiped frontally, and don't say tanks, because then they got their own panther or kt behind it, and don't say make your own blob because they'll get stuka'd and rifle blobs bleed way harder and take 120 muni a pop for double bars (also, bobbling is stupid and I try to avoid it.

Jump back to quoted post29 Apr 2017, 01:41 AMZombiFrancis

Mines, (rocket) artillery.

The mines won't kill or wipe volks, but they can thin them out. Sturms are flimsy and expensive, so if you can remove them from the equation you're in a good situation.