i read the preview balance changes and no mention of this being fixed nor has relic even attempted to fix the nade
im guessing they think its perfectly balanced that the stun nade negates retreating entirely and causes your units to be unable to move long after the stun debuff has wore out, making them free easy kills
of course the solution is to just dodge it right, so if even 1 model gets hit, tough luck on you
elite troops stun nade
5 May 2016, 08:52 AM
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5 May 2016, 08:57 AM
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i read the preview balance changes and no mention of this being fixed nor has relic even attempted to fix the nade
im guessing they think its perfectly balanced that the stun nade negates retreating entirely and causes your units to be unable to move long after the stun debuff has wore out, making them free easy kills
of course the solution is to just dodge it right, so if even 1 model gets hit, tough luck on you
I've experienced the same, 2 grenadiers, the first grenadier stuns and the second just murders the stunned models with a rifle nade.. Retreating not an option. Fix plz?
5 May 2016, 11:00 AM
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Have you tried not getting hit by the nade?
5 May 2016, 13:12 PM
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Isn't this the role of... a stun grenade?
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
5 May 2016, 13:34 PM
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Posts: 345
Isn't this the role of... a stun grenade?
cancel retreat???? no, it is not.
An already muni starved faction (OKW) is now more muni starved and still can't build caches.
5 May 2016, 13:36 PM
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cancel retreat???? no, it is not.
That is what I am wondering about, maybe it was intended.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
5 May 2016, 14:04 PM
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That is what I am wondering about, maybe it was intended.
Its not that it cancels retreat its that it will bug out your squads and prevent you from retreating long after the lightning bolt stun symbol wears off. It's a pretty well known bug (multiple threads on it have been created). I think its safe to assume that Relic will fix it during next Patch as they don't typically list bug fixes in Preview mods until the "List of Changes" that appears a week or so before the patch once everything is finalized.
I'm pretty sure the intended functioning of stun grenades is
1. Prevent retreat while stunned
2. Do NOT cancel retreat already in progress
Does anyone know if the Vet 3 Strumpio grenades are also bugged or is it just Elite Troops?
5 May 2016, 14:20 PM
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Well, I've tried the war spoils open beta and the AI went Elite Troops. I've seen the grenadiers throwing the nade and retreated my fellow conscripts back to base. However the nade exploded 0,1 s after i retreated my squad and I think it hit a model. The conscripts retreated and at the base as soon as they arrived a text popped up over them saying "Stunned!" and lie down to the ground. It was really strange o.O
I'm a 2v2/1v1 player so my perspectives match these modes.
5 May 2016, 14:22 PM
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Posts: 1248
Relic has already attempted to fix stun nades halting retreats. 1 or 2 patches ago they released a patch that addressed it yet apparently that fix bugged itself.
5 May 2016, 14:22 PM
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Posts: 1248
Have you tried not getting hit by the nade?
If I could select my retreat path before I retreated then yes I could avoid getting hit by the stun nade while I am retreating.
5 May 2016, 14:23 PM
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That is what I am wondering about, maybe it was intended.
Relic has already attempted to fix stun nades halting retreats. 1 or 2 patches ago they released a patch that addressed it yet apparently that fix bugged itself.
5 May 2016, 16:34 PM
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Relic has already attempted to fix stun nades halting retreats. 1 or 2 patches ago they released a patch that addressed it yet apparently that fix bugged itself.
yup. Unfortunately the person who used to help us with these kinds of things got fired so... OH WELL
5 May 2016, 19:45 PM
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Does anyone know if the Vet 3 Strumpio grenades are also bugged or is it just Elite Troops?
Yes they are. You can't retreat or move in like 30 seconds.
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