maxim spam shuts down okw entirely.
I'm assuming this is an over exaggeration because I do not see 100% win rate as SOV on coh2chart.com or are those losses all attributed to playing against OST and non-maxim builds?
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maxim spam shuts down okw entirely.
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I'm assuming this is an over exaggeration because I do not see 100% win rate as SOV on coh2chart.com or are those losses all attributed to playing against OST and non-maxim builds?
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im sorry, do you have any experiences vs decent opponents in modes that matter competetively?
maxim spam does shut down okw very early on and its undeniable. you have to count on mistakes by the soviet to have a chance later on.
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Sooo, I'm not using my so-called "irrelevant" experience. I'm using this:
http://coh2chart.com/
Please counter that as stated in my post.
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I'm assuming this is an over exaggeration because I do not see 100% win rate as SOV on coh2chart.com or are those losses all attributed to playing against OST and non-maxim builds?
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You cant be that fanatic to believe what you just wrote there, right?
fine i will just use a counter example.
ostheers 1v1 winrate during the elite troops times, with grens being blatantly op which led to streaks of 80+, wasnt 100% either.
does it mean ostheer wasnt shutting down soviets completely? no. a 100% winrate scenario wont be ever achieved unless everyone is using hard hacks.
you know, there is a fine yet distinctive difference between these stats and actual reality. you have to count both in, not just get your fine data and yell that its not 100%.
oh yeah btw, okw winrate in 1v1 is the lowest, while the soviet one is the highest along with UKF. you like stats so much, here you go.
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Maximspam requires micro now?
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If you can't see the sarcasm, I'm telling you it is now. I'm not the one claiming that Maxims completely shut down another faction.
Shutting something/someone down means there's absolutely nothing they can do about it. Is it unbalanced? Maybe, but I do not see SOV rank 1 on ESL cups. I only quoted you because you made an extreme argument.
And here's the order of the debate for those reading:
Someone makes a exaggerated claim
I reply that that's an exaggeration
Now, posters lose sight of the original point and begins to quote me for unknown opinions
If you believe that maxims always makes OKW lose, please keep on quoting me so I can continue to read your claims.
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im sorry, do you have any experiences vs decent opponents in modes that matter competetively?
maxim spam does shut down okw very early on and its undeniable. you have to count on mistakes by the soviet to have a chance later on.
You are aware that the maxims cone is like 70% narrower than all the other mgs in the game, right?
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I actually find Grens to be reasonably priced, and worth their weight in many cases. Certainly, you can use them as mainline infantry far more than conscripts if you stick to cover and upgrade them; with G43s they can tackle anything short of fully upgraded rifles or shocks.
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Another suggestion is to increase the fuel price of the Luchs. This unit used to come out too late in the last patch since it was locked inside the Schwerer, but now it comes out WAY too early, by the time its out a SOV player won't have any counter unless he really fucked up the OKW player badly somehow.
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He even gets a flame nade which puts molotov to shame.
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Btw, maxims don't work that well in 2v2, because in the mid/late game your maxims inevitably get Panzerwerfered to shit. Oh, and so do your mortars, and AT guns.
Maxims are too slow to avoid the Panzerwerfer barrage and one by one they will all get wiped, while the enemy casually walks out of your Katyusha barrage and laughs at you.
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You are aware i am talking about spamming said maxims? You know, making more than 1 and covering each other? Or that hmg's in houses all have the same arc? Making this smaller cone thing a non-issue?
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Scrap your attitude wise-ass. Since when does merely building more than 1 of something constitute a spam? And maxims in buildings are hilariously easy to counter as OKW, your mainline infantry that almost everyone spams gets a flame grenade that puts the molotov to shame.
I see wermacht players build two mg42s all the time, is that a spam, hmm? Because 2 mg42s can cover far more area than 2 maxims, and they do a better job of it as well. Luchs hardcounters maxim spam, and the sovs then need at nades and a zis if the want to kill it, or guards and zis.