List of infantry weapons by DPS

Jump back to quoted post3 Jul 2013, 18:11 PMAdder

Short answer, yes, I would expect Grenadiers to win against Conscripts the majority of the time if the conditions are identical.

But as Tycho mentions, luck plays a non-trivial factor in the game. I've lost a fight between a full health gren squad vs. a combat engineer squad because they killed a man as I charged and it got worse from there.

CoH reminds me a lot of poker. You can make the right decision but still lose, but that doesn't mean you should feel bad about it.

I just lost a game the other day when the board came out 3c 5c 9c and I had QhQc. My opponent went all in and I called, and he had pocket Kings with no club. I hit neither a club nor a Queen and lost.

Perhaps a bit of a tangent, but those who are familiar with Hold 'em will hopefully see what I mean.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jul 2013, 16:09 PMZ3r07

So Grenadiers are better then Conscripts at everything and whatever range

Jump back to quoted post3 Jul 2013, 18:56 PMbrain

I believe Grens also have a slight armor advantage (without vet; with vet the difference becomes much more significant).

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2013, 01:47 AMAdder

Okay good, so it's linear. Then my previous formula was correct, then.

DPS=DAM/TIME

DAM = dmg * accuracy(d) * movementmultiplier(true/false) * (burstduration * rateoffire) * (reloadfrequency + 1)

TIME = (1 * readyaimtime + reloadfrequency * fireaimtime) * aimmultiplier 
+ 
(reloadfrequency + 1) * (postfiringaimtime + postfiringcooldown + windup + winddown)
+ 
reloadduration * reloaddurationmultiplier

Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2013, 12:00 PMrofltehcat

Thanks for adding the Luger! How did you calculate the DPS?

Do you know what the cooldown times (e.g. 2.5 - 3.5) are based on? Is it also range dependent or simply random?

Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2013, 19:27 PMcr4wler

erm... i just had a look at that coh2stats site... sry to tell you this, but the info on there is missing a lot of essential information. therefor, the formula you used is wrong.

for example, the stats site is missing the cooldown duration multiplier values, which are vital to calculate DPS in relation to distance.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2013, 16:33 PMAdder

There's a link at the bottom of the blog post that goes to the COH2.org forum thread where ace4sure provided the formula. It's literally an exact copy of that, unless I screwed something up.

Post firing cooldown is not used as part of the formula, I think. According to the old COH1 stats explanation page they weren't sure what it did, if anything.


There is an actual stat called "cooldown". For any of the range of values, I used the average value.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2013, 22:21 PMAdder

Sure, no problem. I've actually mentioned multiple times in this thread that I think the calculation is most likely imprecise and useful only as a benchmark.

I can easily fix the data. However, to do so I need:

1. an accurate source of stats
2. an accurate formula for calculating the DPS

If you can provide either one of those, I will happily fix the chart.