[2v2] We're back to cheese meta

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 11:02 AMsiuking666

Seems like right now Double USF can beat all axis combinations except double OKW, while double OKW beats all allies combination except double USF

3 volks + shrecks (no brainer with full mun), tanky kubel caps the map, 3 Rifles focus fire on it and still can get away.
THEN support by 4 LeiGs + Stuka, 2 Flak HQ lockdowns.
Spam the best elite infantry in the game until command panther + JT.

OKW easy mode. Best early game best late game.

double USF, enough early mid game power to fight double OKW.
Rifleman blob with 1919/BARs + 50 cal > Volks blob.
M20 shuts down Kubel.
Captain + Stuart hold Panzer II in line.
Just blob BAR/1919 Rifles + bazooka REs until you get 10 CP and SPAM marginally OP cheesy Calliope.
or Pershing call in.

It's sad to see the meta has come down to this.
British has no chance in early game, while Ostheer can do absolutely nothing about Calliope, it will just slowly chop away all your support weapons and stripe you naked.

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 14:34 PMBIS-Commando

The game is really fcked up atm. I'm playing Europa Universalis 4 right now. I hope they will repair it, because they are loosing players..

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 14:43 PM|GB| The Lnt.599

well I still beat dubble okw everytime as sov with cheese ofcourse but still... sov cheese also strong mate (sovjet anti-infantry tactics )


btw i love your theather of war vids (i believed they were from you correct me if im wrong)

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 15:01 PMQbix

The to-go strat for Allies in 2v2 seems to be rushing one point, locking it down and pushing forward from that point again and again and again to not allow the Axis to recover and retake. For example the USF-SOV combo: SOV rushes houses in the south of Vaux Farmlands or how its called, spams 4 Maxims, ZIS gun and SU-85 spam, locks down the entire area and the rest of the game is both sides fighting over the remaining two VPs with the Allies winning before late game.

Or double Brits on Rails and Metal, who rush the southern VP and the house, lock down everything with mortar pit and bofors and continue to rush and push and pressure so the Axis players are always under fire and can't afford vehicles fast enough. LeIGs suck btw, they can't kill SOV mortars or HMGs sufficiently fast and since they have no suppression anymore, even infantry laughs at them. Kinda sad.

Maybe 2v2 is just meant to be this way instead of 4 players playing a 1 v 1 with occasional help from their teammate.

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 11:02 AMsiuking666

Seems like right now Double USF can beat all axis combinations except double OKW, while double OKW beats all allies combination except double USF

3 volks + shrecks (no brainer with full mun), tanky kubel caps the map, 3 Rifles focus fire on it and still can get away.
THEN support by 4 LeiGs + Stuka, 2 Flak HQ lockdowns.
Spam the best elite infantry in the game until command panther + JT.

OKW easy mode. Best early game best late game.

double USF, enough early mid game power to fight double OKW.
Rifleman blob with 1919/BARs + 50 cal > Volks blob.
M20 shuts down Kubel.
Captain + Stuart hold Panzer II in line.
Just blob BAR/1919 Rifles + bazooka REs until you get 10 CP and SPAM marginally OP cheesy Calliope.
or Pershing call in.

It's sad to see the meta has come down to this.
British has no chance in early game, while Ostheer can do absolutely nothing about Calliope, it will just slowly chop away all your support weapons and stripe you naked.

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 15:04 PMDonnieChan

has there ever been any time/patch in which not everything was cheese/nobrainer meta for you?

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 14:34 PMBIS-Commando

The game is really fcked up atm. I'm playing Europa Universalis 4 right now. I hope they will repair it, because they are loosing players..

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 19:50 PMedibleshrapnel

Nah, everybodies just playing OKW rn.

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 21:01 PMFartOfWar

What is the best elite inf for OKW these days? Obers or Fals?

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 21:01 PMFartOfWar

What is the best elite inf for OKW these days? Obers or Fals?

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 22:47 PMpigsoup

my logic to my personal belief that Axis are stronger in team games is that they got their early game buffs because they felt too weak before, especailly during early game. OST got this steadily throughout the patch and OKW, this december patch.

This would be fine if Allies got some compensations, not eqaul in magnitude of course but allies are not meant to defend in design (except brits which is weak right now) as much as axis factions are.

So allies still have to be aggressive and balls out during early game because Axis late game hasn't been clipped almost at all. The thing is, with mg42 in HQ and OKW manpower boost + stronger volks and Kubel cap master, Axis have just as much and more field presence early and not lacking in quality either.

Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2015, 15:01 PMQbix

The to-go strat for Allies in 2v2 seems to be rushing one point, locking it down and pushing forward from that point again and again and again to not allow the Axis to recover and retake. For example the USF-SOV combo: SOV rushes houses in the south of Vaux Farmlands or how its called, spams 4 Maxims, ZIS gun and SU-85 spam, locks down the entire area and the rest of the game is both sides fighting over the remaining two VPs with the Allies winning before late game.

Or double Brits on Rails and Metal, who rush the southern VP and the house, lock down everything with mortar pit and bofors and continue to rush and push and pressure so the Axis players are always under fire and can't afford vehicles fast enough. LeIGs suck btw, they can't kill SOV mortars or HMGs sufficiently fast and since they have no suppression anymore, even infantry laughs at them. Kinda sad.

Maybe 2v2 is just meant to be this way instead of 4 players playing a 1 v 1 with occasional help from their teammate.