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31 Oct 2015, 09:09 AM
#81
avatar of aradim

Posts: 110

No reason to have a pershing over 2 shermans as of now.

You get smokes, self repair, better AI, worse AT in terms of penetration, self crit repair, with the EZ-8 it's even more one sided, all in all heavy cavalry is a good doctrine but not because of the Pershing.
31 Oct 2015, 09:28 AM
#82
avatar of ElSlayer

Posts: 1605 | Subs: 1

Every USF player in 4v4 game mode picks Heavy Cavalry commander and get rekt by early vehicles while saving for Pershing.

In last 9 games I saw Jackson only twice.
31 Oct 2015, 11:53 AM
#83
avatar of ZombieRommel

Posts: 91

Still playing around with it. You can't overextend and send it on solo missions or you can get caught with your pants down easily. Keep it amongst infantry and weapons teams and it wrecks from afar safely. If enemy spams AT, support with pack howie or M8 Scott or smoke them with call-in smoke and advance Rangers. I'm finding you need lots of munitions AND fuel to make this doctrine work to max capacity.
31 Oct 2015, 11:58 AM
#84
avatar of F1sh

Posts: 521

I feel like it could use a bit more health, actually.
31 Oct 2015, 12:26 PM
#85
avatar of mstcrstn

Posts: 42

I like how they made the Pershing, but if they made it different from tiger and is-2, they should have lowered the fuel cost a bit, not much, 15-20 fuel should be enough, it just doesn't perfom as well as the newly buffed tiger for the same fuel price. Or, they could increase health and armor by 10% each for this price.
And another thing, all other tanks at 800 hp are medium tanks. For the Pershing to be a heavy, they should give it at least another 80 hp in order to go along the line with relic logic.
31 Oct 2015, 13:02 PM
#86
avatar of Bananenheld

Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1

seems like everybody forgetting: 1) commander is overall very, very solid (some may say stronk) 2) usf has the best early and midgame, take that into account if you want to buff pershing.

just started usf 1v1 and im steamrolling my rank 600s enemys lol
31 Oct 2015, 16:26 PM
#87
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

seems like everybody forgetting: 1) commander is overall very, very solid (some may say stronk) 2) usf has the best early and midgame, take that into account if you want to buff pershing.

just started usf 1v1 and im steamrolling my rank 600s enemys lol
thats not how balancing works.
An underpowered unit is a underpowered unit, it doesn't matter how well the rest of the faction is doing. Balance is done by a unit by unit basis and just because a faction is doing well doesn't exclude its underpowered units from getting buffs.

The Pershing currently isn't worth it's cost and needs changes.
31 Oct 2015, 16:27 PM
#88
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

Pershing is fine. It's a hard hitting, fast , mobile but fairly fragile heavy.


It has great synergy with the combined arms ability and its vet bonuses are great and a good vet 1 ability.


Please dont change it relic, you actually did it right this time :sibHyena:
31 Oct 2015, 16:29 PM
#89
avatar of Ace of Swords

Posts: 219

thats not how balancing works.
An underpowered unit is a underpowered unit, it doesn't matter how well the rest of the faction is doing. Balance is done by a unit by unit basis and just because a faction is doing well doesn't exclude its underpowered units from getting buffs.

The Pershing currently isn't worth it's cost and needs changes.


But that's 100% wrong, pershing is fine.
31 Oct 2015, 16:35 PM
#90
avatar of IGOR

Posts: 228



But that's 100% wrong, pershing is fine.


underpowered for its cost , not fine ...
31 Oct 2015, 16:46 PM
#91
avatar of Horasu

Posts: 279

Reduce price to 200 fuel.
31 Oct 2015, 16:52 PM
#92
avatar of Kubelecer

Posts: 403

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 16:27 PMBurts

It has great synergy with the combined arms ability and its vet bonuses are great and a good vet 1 ability.


Increased acceleration so good
31 Oct 2015, 17:16 PM
#93
avatar of Appleseed

Posts: 622

another thing is Pershing can't decrew, i think it is for to limit the Pershing as one, but took away the USF all armor can repair itself by its crew specialty, it need add free crew repair with ability to cancel any time, to make it par with rest of USF armor. but i really don't see the point to give pershing limit as call in, maybe change it to be like E8 but lower the fuel to 150. i really think it should be a 150fu tank for its stats right now, just look another 150fu tank Churchill, no limit, fat, maingun feels like it have better than pershing too. only thing pershing is better is, it is fast like wind, and dat 90mu 1 time shot
31 Oct 2015, 17:23 PM
#94
avatar of Kubelecer

Posts: 403

Seems like it has only 45 range.



Possibly a bug because the gun has a 0 25 50 profile but max range is set to 45.


Nice find, however doesn't seem like anyone cares
31 Oct 2015, 17:34 PM
#95
avatar of EtherealDragon

Posts: 1890 | Subs: 1

Would be nice if they added a T-70 like Self-Repair ability either Vet 0 for Muni cost or maybe a Vet ability.
31 Oct 2015, 17:51 PM
#96
avatar of ATCF
Donator 33

Posts: 587

all other tanks at 800 hp are medium tanks. For the Pershing to be a heavy, they should give it at least another 80 hp in order to go along the line with relic logic.




KV-2 Cries in the corner

31 Oct 2015, 17:58 PM
#97
avatar of pigsoup
Patrion 14

Posts: 4301 | Subs: 2

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 09:09 AMaradim
No reason to have a pershing over 2 shermans as of now.

You get smokes, self repair, better AI, worse AT in terms of penetration, self crit repair, with the EZ-8 it's even more one sided, all in all heavy cavalry is a good doctrine but not because of the Pershing.


jackson (1-2) + pershing is a magic combo.
31 Oct 2015, 18:09 PM
#98
avatar of aradim

Posts: 110

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 17:58 PMpigsoup


jackson (1-2) + pershing is a magic combo.


480 fuel worth of units disregarding teching worth of untits is a magic combo? Really?
31 Oct 2015, 18:38 PM
#99
avatar of Gluhoman

Posts: 380

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 18:09 PMaradim


480 fuel worth of units disregarding teching worth of untits is a magic combo? Really?
Don't forget teching major and another tiers.
31 Oct 2015, 19:00 PM
#100
avatar of Bananenheld

Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1

thats not how balancing works.
An underpowered unit is a underpowered unit, it doesn't matter how well the rest of the faction is doing. Balance is done by a unit by unit basis and just because a faction is doing well doesn't exclude its underpowered units from getting buffs.

The Pershing currently isn't worth it's cost and needs changes.


alright, if balance is about units itself, buff grens and volks, both lose 1v1 to riflemen. am i right?ÀM I RIGHT?
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