Pershing
21 Oct 2015, 19:41 PM
#121
Posts: 380
To my mind it need hp buff or cost nerf.
21 Oct 2015, 19:42 PM
#122
Posts: 758
Stop. The panther actual RoF is 7.5 seconds, due to the wind up time. Better armor? 20 more. Wow.
The pershing is an *excellent* tank for USF. Lets not forget the amazing piercing shot ability.
just hope they do something about the HP or armor cuz axis already have the edge on having a wide array of godlike AT weapons
21 Oct 2015, 19:44 PM
#123
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
It will have more armor than a Tiger (so probably ~320) but 45 range.
I agree. Seems quite balanced.
I asked about range and Brad said 50
21 Oct 2015, 19:45 PM
#124
Posts: 392
Stop. The panther actual RoF is 7.5 seconds, due to the wind up time. Better armor? 20 more. Wow.
The pershing is an *excellent* tank for USF. Lets not forget the amazing piercing shot ability.
Reload
Duration multi far:
1.0
Duration multi near:
1.0
Duration min:
6.1
Duration max:
6.4
Frequency min:
0.0
Frequency max:
0.
http://www.coh2-stats.com/ballistic_weapons/panther_kwk42_75mm_mp
unless i missed something and you like to point it out
also ask the tiger how well it bounces shots like the panther
21 Oct 2015, 19:51 PM
#125
Posts: 1304 | Subs: 13
Reload
Duration multi far:
1.0
Duration multi near:
1.0
Duration min:
6.1
Duration max:
6.4
Frequency min:
0.0
Frequency max:
0.
http://www.coh2-stats.com/ballistic_weapons/panther_kwk42_75mm_mp
unless i missed something and you like to point it out
You missed the wind-down which happens before the reload takes place.
It's 1 second for the Ostheer Panther so not including aim times:
1 Wind down + 5.8-6.7 Reload = 6.8-7.7 Time before it can fire after firing
OKW Panther
1 wind down + 6.1-6.4 = 7.1-7.4 Time before it can fire after firing
Posts: 102 | Subs: 22
Those stats aren't finalize as we are still doing internal tuning on them. But they will be in the ball park
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21 Oct 2015, 19:52 PM
#127
Posts: 732
Why is Pershing turret rotation like twice as fast as vet3 Tiger? It gonna be really simple to destroy all tanks in game with this insane turret rotation and accuracy.
Potent gun, fair enough. but the turret rotation that is that fast on a heavy tank
Potent gun, fair enough. but the turret rotation that is that fast on a heavy tank
21 Oct 2015, 19:55 PM
#128
Posts: 473
Permanently BannedThey withhold Pershing --> People whine
They have Pershing in game files --> People whine
They introduce Pershing and Rangers in one doctrine --> People whine
They show stats of the Pershing, which isn't the wonder weapon Allied players have been hoping for, yet still far better than any tank the USF can field now --> People still whine
You people make no sense to me
They have Pershing in game files --> People whine
They introduce Pershing and Rangers in one doctrine --> People whine
They show stats of the Pershing, which isn't the wonder weapon Allied players have been hoping for, yet still far better than any tank the USF can field now --> People still whine
You people make no sense to me
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
21 Oct 2015, 19:57 PM
#129
Posts: 473
Permanently Banned
just hope they do something about the HP or armor cuz axis already have the edge on having a wide array of godlike AT weapons
6 pounder is pak 40 clone with 50% increased accuracy vs vehicles out of the box.
We understand, via your name, that you probably play nothing but USF, but please be reasonable for once
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
21 Oct 2015, 19:57 PM
#130
Posts: 758
Those stats aren't finalize as we are still doing internal tuning on them. But they will be in the ball park
lol here's hoping the pershing's health or armor gets boost up cuz most of their non-doc tanks are paper when going up against the better axis AT or armor
21 Oct 2015, 19:57 PM
#131
Posts: 2561
Well I'm plenty excited. This is all i could have ever asked for from an american heavy. You guys are way too focused on heavy vs heavy fights, like it matters. 1v1 heavy fights with 0 support are rare.
Benefits of the Pershing:
1. Can turn to fight really fast, and will be very hard to flank
2. 50 range means you out-range every other heavy at low vet.
3. Mobility lets you avoid AT guns easier
4. Combined Arms lets you self spot and out-range everything except TDs
5. Smoke can be called in anywhere to cover it from AT
With all this I don't give a shit if it can 1v1 a Tiger. Lower health doesn't mean shit if they can't actually hit you.
Benefits of the Pershing:
1. Can turn to fight really fast, and will be very hard to flank
2. 50 range means you out-range every other heavy at low vet.
3. Mobility lets you avoid AT guns easier
4. Combined Arms lets you self spot and out-range everything except TDs
5. Smoke can be called in anywhere to cover it from AT
With all this I don't give a shit if it can 1v1 a Tiger. Lower health doesn't mean shit if they can't actually hit you.
21 Oct 2015, 19:59 PM
#132
Posts: 16
Why is Pershing turret rotation like twice as fast as vet3 Tiger? It gonna be really simple to destroy all tanks in game with this insane turret rotation and accuracy.
Potent gun, fair enough. but the turret rotation that is that fast on a heavy tank
Lets also talk about the speed from the persing itself
21 Oct 2015, 19:59 PM
#133
Posts: 758
6 pounder is pak 40 clone with 50% increased accuracy vs vehicles out of the box.
We understand, via your name, that you probably play nothing but USF, but please be reasonable for once
i would be if USF had some decent AT options which at the moment they don't
21 Oct 2015, 20:01 PM
#134
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Posts: 4301 | Subs: 2
They withhold Pershing --> People whine
They have Pershing in game files --> People whine
They introduce Pershing and Rangers in one doctrine --> People whine
They show stats of the Pershing, which isn't the wonder weapon Allied players have been hoping for, yet still far better than any tank the USF can field now --> People still whine
You people make no sense to me
love that pershing isnt just copied is 2.
hyped.
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21 Oct 2015, 20:16 PM
#135
Posts: 473
Permanently Banned
i would be if USF had some decent AT options which at the moment they don't
There you go, you are reasonable. Yet in your earlier comment, you went straight up goo goo and claimed that only Axis factions have good AT, which is rather ignorance, since the 6 pounder is just as good if not better than the pak 40.
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
21 Oct 2015, 20:22 PM
#136
Posts: 758
There you go, you are reasonable. Yet in your earlier comment, you went straight up goo goo and claimed that only Axis factions have good AT, which is rather ignorance, since the 6 pounder is just as good if not better than the pak 40.
why dont they just buff the 57mm to pak 40/QF 6 Pdr standards maybe then i would start using it more so often than the Jackson
21 Oct 2015, 20:26 PM
#137
Posts: 228
come on relic , 800 hp and less armor than a panther
21 Oct 2015, 20:27 PM
#138
Posts: 103
Imo Pershing, Tiger, KV-2 should get Hitpoints increase(10%) if cost stays the same.
Because IS-2 has 25% more armor.
Because IS-2 has 25% more armor.
21 Oct 2015, 20:31 PM
#139
Posts: 473
Permanently Banned
why dont they just buff the 57mm to pak 40/QF 6 Pdr standards maybe then i would start using it more so often than the Jackson
Still circling around facts huh, well so be it.
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
21 Oct 2015, 20:36 PM
#140
Posts: 392
You missed the wind-down which happens before the reload takes place.
It's 1 second for the Ostheer Panther so not including aim times:
1 Wind down + 5.8-6.7 Reload = 6.8-7.7 Time before it can fire after firing
OKW Panther
1 wind down + 6.1-6.4 = 7.1-7.4 Time before it can fire after firing
understood thank you
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