Do conscript models keep their vet bonus when merging
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no
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Yes received accuracy and veterancy is entity specific not squad specific.
***To answer in simple terms,** YES
That is cool...now I have to figure out if it is ever worth it since I would be losing some infantry field presence. Thanks for answer.
If I crew a completely new gun (pak, zis, raketten, etc) with a vet 3 con squad does that mean that those models would also keep their rec acc bonus as new AT crew members? Based upon your previous answer, I woudl think so.
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Yes received accuracy and veterancy is entity specific not squad specific.Wait REALLY? So basically merging vet 3 Scripts into weapon teams constantly is easily worth the +5 MP since base received accuracy was moved into target size?
***To answer in simple terms,** YES
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Wait REALLY? So basically merging vet 3 Scripts into weapon teams constantly is easily worth the +5 MP since base received accuracy was moved into target size?
guys is it me or vet 3 cons kinda hard to get suppress?
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Wait REALLY? So basically merging vet 3 Scripts into weapon teams constantly is easily worth the +5 MP since base received accuracy was moved into target size?
I'm 100%* idiot
base received accuracy definitely transfers, and that alone is enough to merge constantly.
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I'm 69% sure.
The vet modifiers to received accuracy MIGHT go away upon changing squads, I'd have to double check deep into the files. But logically, unless there's a code somewhere that says otherwise, there's no reason for an entity specific property to not transfer everywhere the squad member "goes"
But base received accuracy definitely transfers, and that alone is enough to merge constantly, IMO.
Not sure if the merge action and recrewing cancels out boosts to accuracy, I'd have to test, but received accuracy is a squad modifier for most units in their veterancy, not an entity modifier.
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EDIT: I found somewhere on this forussome time ago that conscripst after merging have som tremderous bad stats bu i cant find it no comfirm it
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Not sure if the merge action and recrewing cancels out boosts to accuracy, I'd have to test, but received accuracy is a squad modifier for most units in their veterancy, not an entity modifier.
Veterancy is under EBPS is it not? I'm not home so I can't double check anything. I'm just going off what I remember. Could've sworn it was entity specific
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Veterancy is under EBPS is it not? I'm not home so I can't double check anything. I'm just going off what I remember. Could've sworn it was entity specific
But for received accuracy most squad's get the modifier is categorized as apply_to_squad. If it applied to entity you'd have the issue where new member wouldn't get those bonuses as they applied to the original members.
Here's a video explaining things. Note that the penetration boost to the Conscript rifles is labelled similar to what you get with accuracy so apply_to_weapon and apparently those bonuses do carry over upon merging.
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Vet bonuses are applied to SQUAD, not entity, therefore they don't transfer.
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But for received accuracy most squad's get the modifier is categorized as apply_to_squad. If it applied to entity you'd have the issue where new member wouldn't get those bonuses as they applied to the original members.
Here's a video explaining things. Note that the penetration boost to the Conscript rifles is labelled similar to what you get with accuracy so apply_to_weapon and apparently those bonuses do carry over upon merging.
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So Let's say pathfinders at vet 1 with their plus sight range crewed an mg... They'd still have the bonus, right..? It wouldn't just go away.
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So Let's say pathfinders at vet 1 with their plus sight range crewed an mg... They'd still have the bonus, right..? It wouldn't just go away.
It wouldn't for IR Pathfinder as their LOS boost modifiers are set to squad rather than the entity. I think the regular Pathfinder squad can keep giving out the vet even when the original entities die as the modifier is set to permanent. Have to do more testing with apply_to_entity stuff.
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It wouldn't for IR Pathfinder as their LOS boost modifiers are set to squad rather than the entity. I think the regular Pathfinder squad can keep giving out the vet even when the original entities die as the modifier is set to permanent. Have to do more testing with apply_to_entity stuff.
Interesting
. Well I need to do some digging/studying myself, because that seems wildly inconsistent. You'd think received accuracy modifier would work like a sight modifier.
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But for received accuracy most squad's get the modifier is categorized as apply_to_squad. If it applied to entity you'd have the issue where new member wouldn't get those bonuses as they applied to the original members.
Here's a video explaining things. Note that the penetration boost to the Conscript rifles is labelled similar to what you get with accuracy so apply_to_weapon and apparently those bonuses do carry over upon merging.
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