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Lazarraga
7 Oct 2015, 08:37 AM
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I'm thinking of building a new rig and I'm on the fence here. First I thought of building it with a Haswell refresh CPU (probably i5 4590 or 4690), because the only two Skylake CPUs that Intel had released where the i5 6600k and the i7 6700k, and I'm not gonna OC. But I just checked and they've released plenty of new Skylake CPUs.

Question: Is there any reason why I shouldn't go with Skylake?

Thanks in advance for the feedback :)
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7 Oct 2015, 08:41 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Oct 2015, 08:37 AMLazarraga
I'm thinking of building a new rig and I'm on the fence here. First I thought of building it with a Haswell refresh CPU (probably i5 4590 or 4690), because the only two Skylake CPUs that Intel had released where the i5 6600k and the i7 6700k, and I'm not gonna OC. But I just checked and they've released plenty of new Skylake CPUs.

Question: Is there any reason why I shouldn't go with Skylake?

Thanks in advance for the feedback :)


If you don't want to overclock, there is no sense in purchasing a K version of any cpu, since the K means they are designed with overclocking in mind.

Just get a version without the K, that has the most desirable speed for your needs. Wouldn't focus to much on the i5 vs i7 debate, Intel recently releases the i5 6600, a beast on its own that can match any i7 apart from perhaps the top model.
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Waspaloy
7 Oct 2015, 08:43 AM
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Yes, the expensive DDR4 memory.
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Lazarraga
7 Oct 2015, 08:57 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Oct 2015, 08:41 AMAngryKitten465


If you don't want to overclock, there is no sense in purchasing a K version of any cpu, since the K means they are designed with overclocking in mind.

Just get a version without the K, that has the most desirable speed for your needs. Wouldn't focus to much on the i5 vs i7 debate, Intel recently releases the i5 6600, a beast on its own that can match any i7 apart from perhaps the top model.


Thanks for the reply.

Not OCing, that's why I didn't think of Skylake when there only were the unlocked i5 6600k and i7 6700K. As you say, the i5 6600 looks great, that's why I'm thinking of Skylake instead of Haswell refresh now.

Yup, I was not going for an i7 anyway, it's an overkill for what I need/want the CPU.

jump backJump back to quoted post7 Oct 2015, 08:43 AMWaspaloy
Yes, the expensive DDR4 memory.


Thanks for the answer!

Well, where I live, 8 gigs (2x4) of ddr3 1600 are around 50 euros, while 8 gigs (2x4) ddr4 2133 are around 60. It's not that much. So if that is the only reason, I'm definitely going with Skylake instead of Haswell refresh. Plus, ddr3/4 compatibility comes with the chipset. I could go Skylake and ddr3 if I were to buy a B150 chipset mobo. :)

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Waspaloy
7 Oct 2015, 09:05 AM
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Nice.
I didn't know that the b150 chipset supported ddr3. Thanks for the info.
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Lazarraga
7 Oct 2015, 11:34 AM
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Yup, I don't know about h110, but I think it's ddr4. You might wanna check it too ;)
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7 Oct 2015, 14:37 PM
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You'll want the Z170 chipset and yea DDR4 memory has come down A LOT since release. There is no reason to not go Skylake.
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7 Oct 2015, 16:49 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Oct 2015, 14:37 PMBudwise
You'll want the Z170 chipset and yea DDR4 memory has come down A LOT since release. There is no reason to not go Skylake.


Hey, thanks for the reply.

Just one question: why not the h170 chipset? They seem pretty even apart from the OC support, right?

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-100-series-chipsets,29993.html
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7 Oct 2015, 18:32 PM
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In general the H series boards have always been the lower tier, made with cheaper components, and therefore a slightly lower price. Other things such as NIC (Intel instead of Realtek or other), sound (generally better onboard sound chip), and extra ports are a difference that you will also usually see moving up to the higher end boards. You can get the entry level Asus Z170 for $115 USD.

I guess what I'm saying is there is more to look at than just what chipset number is on the label.
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Lazarraga
7 Oct 2015, 18:42 PM
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Thanks for the info :)
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Lazarraga
10 Oct 2015, 10:33 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Oct 2015, 09:05 AMWaspaloy
Nice.
I didn't know that the b150 chipset supported ddr3. Thanks for the info.


Just saw that some h170 mobos also support ddr3, so it seems that it comes down to manufacturer's decision, at least when it comes to h170 chipset.
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13 Oct 2015, 14:43 PM
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Im still using Sandy Bridge :X
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13 Oct 2015, 14:51 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Oct 2015, 14:43 PMvietnam_giap13
Im still using Sandy Bridge :X


Me too :D and I'm not planning on changing my 2500k to anything else soon, I'm still in love with that cpu :blush:
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