Air Supremacy is just completely OP

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 18:11 PMwillyto

I don't see any AXIS player complaining about Close the Pocket in here.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 18:11 PMwillyto

I don't see any AXIS player complaining about Close the Pocket in here.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 23:09 PMTobis

I can't believe people are actually defending the ability to obliterate OKW trucks with this. Now I hate OKW as much as the next guy, but you can't think it is fair to just delete a core teching structure from the game just because you saved up an expensive amount of munitions. I am completely fine with the damage and area this ability can lay waste to as long as it is not a almost guaranteed kill on their tech structures.

This is not some risk/reward argument, there is no counterplay to this. Starting every match against a British player who has commandos equipped (so all of the Brit matches) resigning that you will probably lose your tech buildings unless you put them in the base is not compelling strategic depth. It is not fair to shut down an entire core concept that a faction is designed for just because you saved up a bunch of munitions.

Some of you are making the argument that because Brit emplacements can be killed easier, then this is justified. The difference is that they are not essential tech buildings where you build your units from. It's ridiculous to lock somebody out of building their top tier units from a single off map. These trucks are designed to be difficult to destroy because OKW is so severely crippled if they are. The ease with which this ability allows you to do it is inherently bad for gameplay and requires the damage to the trucks to be toned down.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 20:23 PMSierra

I'm not taking a stance one way or another on this issue, but before you say there isn't any counter play, would you at least try to make some aggressively placed 2cm Flakvierlings and Ostwinds or FlaK-Halftracks? I am maybe feeling that if there is enough of them, the combined firepower might be enough to knock most of the planes out of the sky before the payload is dropped. Between 2+ OKW players it's not so expensive or impossible.

Just give it a try. If it doesn't work at all, then your assertion that there is no counterplay is correct, if it does work, then there's something to be said there.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 20:23 PMSierra

I'm not taking a stance one way or another on this issue, but before you say there isn't any counter play, would you at least try to make some aggressively placed 2cm Flakvierlings and Ostwinds or FlaK-Halftracks? I am maybe feeling that if there is enough of them, the combined firepower might be enough to knock most of the planes out of the sky before the payload is dropped. Between 2+ OKW players it's not so expensive or impossible.

Just give it a try. If it doesn't work at all, then your assertion that there is no counterplay is correct, if it does work, then there's something to be said there.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 21:13 PMIron Emperor

Although it's a counter, it would give you too less punch against the heavy tanks that roll in

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 03:31 AMatouba

Well when I played the brits in team games,I always use the commando commander for this OP bombs...You guys are focusing on destroying the trucks only? It can just remove anything in the large area. I have managed to kill a KT with damaged engine. All the slow moving Axis heavies will be killed if players failed to move them out...

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 14:15 PMAlexzandvar

So Relic quite did literally just copy paste the ability from Urban Assault Doctrine.