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How to counter fast T70?

18 Jun 2013, 08:54 AM
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aka new PE AC, oh wait, even PE AC can't kill people like that

damn it, buff Ostheer AC to that level, that bastard is uncountable
18 Jun 2013, 09:15 AM
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With great difficulty.

Ostheer roster has a gap where there "should" be a light tank.

222, nope.
PaK, nope.
Faust, nope (snipes infantry like a boss)
HT variants, nope.
Shreks, maybe. Recuding Shrek count to one per purchase would help, economically.
Mines, yes. But costly.
Stug, nope.
Ostwind, maybe. Never seen how hard it hits the T70.

Try to hold fuel, and hunt it with a PIV.
(after which it will piss off and instead screw your infantry flanks)
18 Jun 2013, 09:19 AM
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they're really strong now(since vehicle&tank balance patch).

AT is effective. but crews of AT was killed by them so easily. (seriously...)

I think, you need a T-mine. and AT with some gren. T-mine is good solution.

T-mine can blow them up at once :)


Oh, panzer 4 is really great solution too. but If you can build that...
18 Jun 2013, 09:43 AM
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oh why don't you suggest Tiger instead?

God, it's about timing, T70 arrive too early
18 Jun 2013, 12:46 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Jun 2013, 09:43 AMPorygon
oh why don't you suggest Tiger instead?

God, it's about timing, T70 arrive too early


ya. but you can use T-mine early. use this.
18 Jun 2013, 14:38 PM
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Just like the M8 from vCoH, if they rush it you will need a PAK combined with faust or Shrek. If you see other fuel related upgrades prior to then you are safe going straight to Stug or P4.
18 Jun 2013, 14:45 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Jun 2013, 14:38 PMBudwise
Just like the M8 from vCoH, if they rush it you will need a PAK combined with faust or Shrek. If you see other fuel related upgrades prior to then you are safe going straight to Stug or P4.

What other fuel related upgrades? :rofl:

The only thing that costs fuel before this is M3s.. yeah ok, molotovs, but everyone gets that anyway.
18 Jun 2013, 14:51 PM
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Molotovs and AT nades. Also as you said M3's.
18 Jun 2013, 15:21 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Jun 2013, 14:38 PMBudwise
Just like the M8 from vCoH, if they rush it you will need a PAK combined with faust or Shrek. If you see other fuel related upgrades prior to then you are safe going straight to Stug or P4.


Actually, Wehr just need 2 mines and a Pak, one screck for safety, to kill a M8
but Wehr in France are more likely to stay together, defending a spot. Ostheer is more likely to spread or risk having overcapped by Zerglings Cons :(

That dirt cheap T70 can one man army the whole Ostheer until P4 / StuG III come out :(
Faust and screck cannot do anything to it
If Pak got left behind alone, it will be 100% dead
Only a lucky Teller can take it down, but it's so expensive

Replay of my T70 raping some poor Ostheer guy
18 Jun 2013, 19:35 PM
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You just need your counters in the right places at the right time, same thing went for dealing with a M8. If Pak does get a hit it does like 70% damage. If faust hits it does like 30% damage and buys a ton of time to bring your Pak over. Shreks own it too. If circling your Pak really bugs you that much then just go for G43/camo doctrine and buy cloaking for it.
18 Jun 2013, 19:57 PM
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Well, personally I've found that a double gren + mg opening counters the T-70 quite effectively, provided you can get Vet 1 Incendiary Ammo + Faust to work. This combination will kill the T-70 outright, though granted it requires some psychological warfare on the Ostwehr's part.

It's not a perfect counter but it's something.
18 Jun 2013, 19:59 PM
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You just need your counters in the right places at the right time, same thing went for dealing with a M8. If Pak does get a hit it does like 70% damage. If faust hits it does like 30% damage and buys a ton of time to bring your Pak over. Shreks own it too. If circling your Pak really bugs you that much then just go for G43/camo doctrine and buy cloaking for it.


Camo only works on HMG, Grenadier and Panzer Grenadier squads.

Camo AT guns is a Soviet-specific doctrine, not shared by Ostwehr.
18 Jun 2013, 20:05 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Jun 2013, 15:21 PMPorygon


Actually, Wehr just need 2 mines and a Pak, one screck for safety, to kill a M8
but Wehr in France are more likely to stay together, defending a spot. Ostheer is more likely to spread or risk having overcapped by Zerglings Cons :(

That dirt cheap T70 can one man army the whole Ostheer until P4 / StuG III come out :(
Faust and screck cannot do anything to it
If Pak got left behind alone, it will be 100% dead
Only a lucky Teller can take it down, but it's so expensive

Replay of my T70 raping some poor Ostheer guy


I watched the game, though in my humble opinion the Ostwehr player lost due to inferior map control, even though at one point he outnumbered you in terms of squads.
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