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UKF nerfs and business ethics

DeC
11 Sep 2015, 03:34 AM
#1
avatar of DeC

Posts: 102

I paid the full price and bought the DLC. And the purchased DLC and included units MUST perform as advertised. Not even a full week has passed and we are talking about mass nerfs of units and abilities which are actually what make the faction fun and enjoyable.


11 Sep 2015, 03:39 AM
#2
avatar of Nuclear Arbitor
Patrion 28

Posts: 2470

dude, you don't understand how balancing works.
11 Sep 2015, 03:44 AM
#3
avatar of SpaceHamster
Patrion 14

Posts: 474

I must be like one of the few people who remembers the first phases of Close Fuck Everything Support, Elite Tiger Ace Commander, Mechanized Assault Grenadier Spam, and Soviet T70-dustry.

Seriously, you can get the commanders from drops. And Relic never made any promises that the units in the rare commanders wouldn't be tweaked. And Crocodile Churchill is far too godly to remain in its current form.
11 Sep 2015, 03:45 AM
#4
avatar of Hawking

Posts: 113

:sibPheasant:

You're not buying the advertised units as they were advertised, think of it as buying a subscription to unlock continually updating content. If this game still ran like it was advertised back in 2012, things would be...yeah.
11 Sep 2015, 03:53 AM
#5
avatar of WhySooSerious

Posts: 1248

thats called Pay2Win sadly this isn't that game. An Add-on will act as an add-on for this game.
11 Sep 2015, 04:00 AM
#6
avatar of Talore

Posts: 73

Hey it's another person who knows nothing of business ethics or false advertising. Relic has a history of aggressively rebalancing aspects of the game, so you have no real leg to stand on for "ethical" outrage. Just #adapt
11 Sep 2015, 04:32 AM
#7
avatar of Dr. Green Thumb

Posts: 132

I gave Relic and Sega a lot of shit about P2W Dlc when commanders hit. I swore I would never buy anything else from Relic. But I slowly changed my opinion seeing the constant updates and balances. Good on Relic for trying their best to keep things fair.

Making it not P2W has actually gotten me to pay for something.
11 Sep 2015, 04:37 AM
#8
avatar of FestiveLongJohns
Patrion 15

Posts: 1157 | Subs: 2

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Sep 2015, 03:34 AMDeC
I paid the full price and bought the DLC. And the purchased DLC and included units MUST perform as advertised. Not even a full week has passed and we are talking about mass nerfs of units and abilities which are actually what make the faction fun and enjoyable.




Lol this 4 post troll. Please don't feed.
DeC
11 Sep 2015, 05:55 AM
#9
avatar of DeC

Posts: 102

You didn't get the point. I'm not saying 'elt's nake it pay 2 win I'll pay".


Emplacements are the reason people buy the faction. Making them useless by implementing silly changes is immoral and also against balance.
11 Sep 2015, 05:59 AM
#10
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Posts: 1534 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Sep 2015, 05:55 AMDeC
You didn't get the point. I'm not saying 'elt's nake it pay 2 win I'll pay".


Emplacements are the reason people buy the faction. Making them useless by implementing silly changes is immoral and also against balance.



11 Sep 2015, 06:02 AM
#11
avatar of JohnnyB

Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1

dude, you don't understand how balancing works.


Dude, you don't understand how money milking works.

Step 1. Create a super-duper-faction that crush all the others
Step 2. Advertise the faction and present it in all its power
Step 3. Launch the faction.
Step 4. Cash the money.
Step 5. Nerf the faction because you know, balance.

=> The faction is not what customer paid for aaand...
=> Money were cashed.

Nothing new here. We saw that in WFA's caseand in many DLC commanders' case.

I was expecting to nerfs in 1,5-2 months. Relic moved verry fast though. LOL.
11 Sep 2015, 06:05 AM
#12
avatar of Remo

Posts: 111

Does this mean I can whine about USF being the absolute most garbage faction?

Can I get a refund? Kappa

No but seriously, fix the USF, they suck. lol @ 90 munition thompson upgrade for vehicle crews. Someone take the guy who came up with that out back and shoot him in the head.
11 Sep 2015, 06:06 AM
#13
avatar of JohnnyB

Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Sep 2015, 06:05 AMRemo
Does this mean I can whine about USF being the absolute most garbage faction?

Can I get a refund? Kappa



Yes you can whine but you can't get a refund :P
11 Sep 2015, 06:07 AM
#14
avatar of Remo

Posts: 111

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Sep 2015, 06:06 AMJohnnyB


Yes you can whine but you can't get a refund :P


I demand to see your manager. MVGame
11 Sep 2015, 06:58 AM
#15
avatar of iTzDusty

Posts: 836 | Subs: 5

Hey guys

Nerfing emplacement brace = emplacements are useless.

Just wait till OCF you won't see a SINGLE ONE I ASSURE YOU IT WAS RELICS PLAN ALL ALONG HAHAHA SUCK IT ITS THEIR 12$ CAD NOW
11 Sep 2015, 06:59 AM
#16
avatar of KoufromMizuchi

Posts: 172

NO, no, no. They're doing free repair and recalls for their defective product, ya know:romeoHairDay:
11 Sep 2015, 07:11 AM
#17
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

I like it when stupid people bitch about coh2 latest content being P2W(EVERY SINGLE TIME, there was even post about AA being P2W on official forums), but when it gets balanced quickly people bitch again because it got balanced. :snfPeter:
11 Sep 2015, 07:18 AM
#18
avatar of CptEend
Patrion 14

Posts: 369

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Sep 2015, 07:11 AMKatitof
I like it when stupid people bitch about coh2 latest content being P2W(EVERY SINGLE TIME, there was even post about AA being P2W on official forums), but when it gets balanced quickly people bitch again because it got balanced. :snfPeter:


AA P2W? I must see that thread :snfBarton:

11 Sep 2015, 07:27 AM
#19
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Sep 2015, 07:18 AMCptEend


AA P2W? I must see that thread :snfBarton:



Then take a shovel and start digging through a year of shit posts :snfBarton: I'm definitely not going to look for that.
11 Sep 2015, 08:02 AM
#20
avatar of xXRenzovXx

Posts: 21

The nerf is ok but they should nerf the osth sniper and nerf the blobs and btw why in the hell the UKF bleed that much i can't buy units cuz the I-S cost much for buying and reinforce but don't preform well as half as if it in yellow cover if its on the move not as a mg 42 gren spam that's kill everything and the soviet sniper die like a ants and the osth one have a lot hell of health
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