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6pounder(57mm) = 75mmPak ?

14 Sep 2015, 01:05 AM
#41
avatar of KoufromMizuchi

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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Sep 2015, 01:28 AMIGOR


as someone said before brits have serious problems related to manpower so ...
and usf is a dead faction let it burn Kappa .

You surely don't read what I said in the posts... well:foreveralone:
14 Sep 2015, 01:57 AM
#42
avatar of hubewa

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Axis fanboy logic "why does this low 57mm cannon is equal to a 75mm axis one?"

meanwhile the Isu-152 with its BIG 152MM!!! cannon cant penetrate with AP shells panthers WHILE the panther with tis 75mm gun penetrates IS-2s and ISU-152s:foreveralone:

cause reasons:foreveralone:


Isn't even a buff/nerf discussion and you're waving the fanboy flag.

Using all caps and shit in a civil discussion.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Nabarxos at his finest.

GTFO any balance discussion please, no-one wants your toxcity.
14 Sep 2015, 04:47 AM
#43
avatar of Nabarxos

Posts: 392


Compare a super tank with a supertank.

This is AT gun problem. Also, in-game performance per mp is problem here.
I'm not talking about IRL bullshit.

play the british and tell me how affordable the 6 pounder is mate then compare it to anothers faction AT gun price/performance
14 Sep 2015, 07:37 AM
#44
avatar of KoufromMizuchi

Posts: 172


play the british and tell me how affordable the 6 pounder is mate then compare it to anothers faction AT gun price/performance

Is this like... 350mp unit??
Brit mp problem might need some love, but that is not the excuse for them to have this much efficiency.

You don't have to bleed a lot once your engineers come.
14 Sep 2015, 09:57 AM
#45
avatar of Nabarxos

Posts: 392


Is this like... 350mp unit??
Brit mp problem might need some love, but that is not the excuse for them to have this much efficiency.

You don't have to bleed a lot once your engineers come.

afford what?

RE? and what will they battle??? pioneers???

mate please go play british 1vs1 and 2vs2 and tell me how affordable it is

a faction that has to spend so much MP just to survive has a cheap not so durable AT GUN that penetrates most tanks

and if you find funny the AT gun,i find funny how the MG-42 DESTROYS light vehicles while the M2HB .50cal DOESNT,care to explain me why the faction with T0 panzerfaust has a HMG that decimates Light vehicles?

please be more reasonable with such matters and try to look it from the allied point of view not just the AXIS one cause they are not the same faction



14 Sep 2015, 10:02 AM
#46
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Ok, penetration is the same.

Is damage?
14 Sep 2015, 14:22 PM
#47
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Ok, penetration is the same.

Is damage?


The 6 Pounder and Pack40 are functionally identical.
14 Sep 2015, 17:08 PM
#48
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Sep 2015, 07:16 AMl4hti
The question is why 6pounder costs 270 mp, while pak costs 320mp, meanwhile it has same performance vs armor (if we dont talk about target weakpoint)


Because all of their other stuff is more expensive and they need the AT gun at the manpower price or they will get screwed.

In the case relic re-balances all manpower costs for the brits they will also increase the price of the AT gun.
14 Sep 2015, 20:23 PM
#49
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Come on people, a little perspective plz

PaK is not equal to 6lber, because the 6lber faces much more durable tanks

It's one of the british units that shouldn't be touched
14 Sep 2015, 20:28 PM
#50
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The Pak40 and 6lber are functioally identical, with several differences.

1) 6lber has +50% accuracy.
2) 6lber has a lot tighter of an arc.
3) 6lber has "rapid maneuvers" instead of TWP.

I would like to see it cost at least 300mp to justify it's firepower (no unit should be cheaper than it performs). The correct fix would be for Relic to fix UKF's bleeding problem. They are already looking into this with the tech cost mp changes.
15 Sep 2015, 00:51 AM
#51
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Sep 2015, 20:23 PMArclyte
Come on people, a little perspective plz

PaK is not equal to 6lber, because the 6lber faces much more durable tanks



15 Sep 2015, 01:02 AM
#52
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They should reduce the penetration to maybe the Zis level but gain it back at Vet 3. 280 is a wee little to cheap at 290 could work but the accuracy 1.5 (bug?) should be taken away. Besides that it is a weaker Pak 40 just due to the amazing TWP (Rapid Maneuvers is quite good however)
15 Sep 2015, 01:40 AM
#53
avatar of KoufromMizuchi

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afford what?

RE? and what will they battle??? pioneers???

mate please go play british 1vs1 and 2vs2 and tell me how affordable it is

a faction that has to spend so much MP just to survive has a cheap not so durable AT GUN that penetrates most tanks

and if you find funny the AT gun,i find funny how the MG-42 DESTROYS light vehicles while the M2HB .50cal DOESNT,care to explain me why the faction with T0 panzerfaust has a HMG that decimates Light vehicles?

please be more reasonable with such matters and try to look it from the allied point of view not just the AXIS one cause they are not the same faction




Sappers battle to what? What's LMG for? I find it quite funny you're ignoring the current meta for UKF and saying that LOL

MG42 wrecking light vehicles? Sure, if you let the vehicles stand in front of MG and AFK for seconds :clap:
And it's :ot:

I'm sorry that you're the one who is not being reasonable with such matters, since I was saying Brit MP problem need some love (and Relic already priced down mp on tech) and you gave any care about it, kept telling irrelevant stuffs. If I am a biased Axis player, why most of other posts in this thread don't call me a biased one or tell me to stop?
15 Sep 2015, 01:44 AM
#54
avatar of braciszek

Posts: 2053

300 mp. (As in, it shouldnt be a great deal to just increase its price slightly)

It doesnt have TWP - and if pak 40 perfomance is right for allied tanks, then something similar shouldnt be too much against axis tanks.
15 Sep 2015, 01:49 AM
#55
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Posts: 172

wrong post pls delete
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