because daspoulos is an axis fanboy *irony*
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because daspoulos is an axis fanboy *irony*
just my 2 cent
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Lets see we got the stug e, the tiger, the ostwind for okw, the jagdtiger, elefant, pz4 command tank. Plus tiger ace which is legitimately overpowered. And perhaps a few more tanks I am missing. All overpowered. Thanks queen. I will forward this to relic so they can batch nerf all these germa- err... "nazi" tanks. Yeah thats better.
P.S. eat shit.
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Lets see we got the stug e, the tiger, the ostwind for okw, the jagdtiger, elefant, pz4 command tank. Plus tiger ace which is legitimately overpowered. And perhaps a few more tanks I am missing. All overpowered. Thanks queen. I will forward this to relic so they can batch nerf all these germa- err... "nazi" tanks. Yeah thats better.
P.S. eat shit.
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Something you guys may be overlooking is that, because the HP is so high, it takes a long time to repair these tanks. A bad engagement will mean the tank will be out of action for a long time, even if you didn't destroy it.
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doesnt get player that choose anvil(that one with churchill) double repair speed ?
correct me if im wrong
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doesnt get player that choose anvil(that one with churchill) double repair speed ?
correct me if im wrong
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1600 HP for stock Churchill seems fair.
It's good only at soaking damage.
Lets not forget that vetted Sturmtiger has over 1400 (IIRC).
Units for 200fuel are deadly in CoH2. Churchill isnt. So Id say keep 1600 for stock one, or lower to 1280 but also with price decrease.
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Pak 43 will be new Meta.
I can actually see the defensive doctrine with tank traps and the pak43 being useful against the brits.
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Festung support.
Hull down for Stugs and Panther, Railway (which needs buff since Sturmtiger AoE is bigger than 680mm shell) against emplacements + command tank and smoke to support.
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The Sturmtiger at no point ever did larger AoE than the railway artillery piece, the 80cm shell has an AoE radius of 12, the Sturmtiger used to have 10 and now has 8.
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Churchill should be reworked to a high armor (325-350) heavy HP (1290) tank. That should also come with a fuel increase to ~190. It is currently priced as a heavy medium, when for all intents and purposes it is a heavy with a medium's maingun.
The closest equivalent unit to the Churchill is the KV1, but the KV1 has worse vet, armor, HP, and gun. You cannot justify (the churchill's) current performance on its similarity to the KV1.
The 190ish fuel price will also delay it, and make skipping Cromwells and going for a fast Churchill far more punishing. Currently, for 40 fuel more (65 if you count tech) you get a slower tank with much better everything else.
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Comet. It's combination of speed, firepower, armor and hp is nuts. And 50 range (confirmed by Relic).
It's a Panther on steroids that can actually fight off infantry.
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Ah, good. It was changed to 150 as it used to cost 180 and people didnt want to build it over comet.
So moar Comets shall be used.
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It has a better gun than KV-1, while having double the health, and 10 more armor, and more MG damage even at vet0 (and gaining more at vet1). For 5 fuel and 120mp more.
Yes the Sturmtiger is a bullshit unit that needs a nerf too, but even with the vet2 buff it still has 38 less armor and 160 less health than the vet0 Churchill.
150 fuel isn't 200. Churchill is priced like a medium fuel wise despite having the highest raw survivability of any vehicle in the game.
The Sturmtiger at no point ever did larger AoE than the railway artillery piece, the 80cm shell has an AoE radius of 12, the Sturmtiger used to have 10 and now has 8.
Railway damage at radius 4.5: 0.15*600 = 90
Railway damage at radius 6: 0.05*600 = 30
Sturmtiger damage at radius 5: 1*640 = 640
Sturmtiger damage at radius 10: 0.3*640 = 192
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If comparing with KV1, its obvious that Churchill should have superior armor rather that superior health.
I mean, 152mm of front is more than IS2 so from historical point of view it should have less HP but insane armour, like 1040 (1280 vet 2) with 350-400armour.
But Relic went in different, ahistorical direction, idk why. Still, it has have great survability by armor or by health.
PS
Did not know they changed it to 150
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Stiger doesnt have 1600 hp and can be 1 shot if reloading
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